Hi, Lincoln Lee.
Thanks for your feedback. 
Yes, this unified parameter will definitely come in a major version. These 
parameters shouldn't cross version which will make users confused and hard to 
migirate. That means we don't expect to expose `table.ctas.atomicity-enabled` 
then.  Instead,  we will only expose  `table.rtas-ctas.atomicity-enabled` to 
users.

Best regards,
Yuxia

----- 原始邮件 -----
发件人: "lincoln 86xy" <lincoln.8...@gmail.com>
收件人: "dev" <dev@flink.apache.org>
发送时间: 星期一, 2023年 6 月 26日 上午 10:27:18
主题: Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-303: Support REPLACE TABLE AS SELECT statement

Hi yuxia,

+1 for this new feature, it will be handy for users.

In general, I agree with unifying the parameter names into one(for now, I
haven't seen the need to set different atomicity for the two syntaxes
separately), but what needs to be noted is that we'd better to provide the
unified parameter in a major version (either 1.18 or later, supporting both
ctas & rtas) instead of renaming the options across two versions, it would
be more user-friendly.

Best,
Lincoln Lee


yuxia <luoyu...@alumni.sjtu.edu.cn> 于2023年6月26日周一 10:04写道:

> Hi, folks.
> To save the time of reviewers, I would like to summary the main changes of
> this FLIP[1]. The FLIP is just to introduce REPLACE TABLE AS SELECT
> statement which is almost similar to CREATE TABLE AS SELECT statement, and
> a syntax CREATE OR REPLACE TABLE AS to wrap both. This FLIP is try to
> complete such kinds of statement.
>
> The changes are as follows:
> 1: Add enum REPLACE_TABLE_AS, CREATE_OR_REPLACE_TABLE_AS in StagingPurpose
> which is proposed in FLIP-305[2].
>
> 2: Change the configuration from `table.ctas.atomicity-enabled` proposed
> in FLIP-305[2] to `table.rtas-ctas.atomicity-enabled` to make it take
> effect not only for create table as, but for replace table as && create or
> replace table as. The main reason is that these statements are almost same
> which belongs to same statement family and I would not like to introduce a
> new different configuration which actually do the same thing. Also, IIRC,
> in the offline dicussion about FLIP-218[1], it also wants to introduce
> `table.rtas-ctas.atomicity-enabled`, but as FLIP-218 is only to support
> CTAS, it's not suitable to introduce a configuration implying rtas which is
> not supported. So, we change the configuration to
> `table.ctas.atomicity-enabled`. Since CTAS has been supported, I think it's
> reasonable to revist it and introduce `table.rtas-ctas.atomicity-enabled` a
> to unify them in this FLIP for supporting REPLACE TABLE AS statement.
>
>
> Again, look forward to your feedback.
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-303%3A+Support+REPLACE+TABLE+AS+SELECT+statement
> [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-305%3A+Support+atomic+for+CREATE+TABLE+AS+SELECT%28CTAS%29+statement
> [3]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=199541185
>
> Best regards,
> Yuxia
>
> ----- 原始邮件 -----
> 发件人: "yuxia" <luoyu...@alumni.sjtu.edu.cn>
> 收件人: "dev" <dev@flink.apache.org>
> 发送时间: 星期四, 2023年 6 月 15日 下午 7:58:27
> 主题: [DISCUSS] FLIP-303: Support REPLACE TABLE AS SELECT statement
>
> Hi, devs.
> As the FLIPs FLIP-218[1] & FLIP-305[2] for Flink to supports CREATE TABLE
> AS SELECT statement has been accepted.
> I would like to start a discussion about FLIP-303: Support REPLACE TABLE
> AS SELECT+statement[3] to complete such kinds of statements.
> With REPLACE TABLE AS SELECT statement, users won't need to drop the table
> firstly, and use CREATE TABLE AS SELECT then. Since the statement is much
> similar to CREATE TABLE AS statement, the design is much similar to
> FLIP-218[1] & FLIP-305[2] apart from some parts specified to REPLACE TABLE
> AS SELECT statement.
> Just kindly remind, to understand this FLIP better, you may need read
> FLIP-218[1] & FLIP-305[2] to get more context.
>
> Look forward to your feedback.
>
> [1]:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=199541185
> [2]:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-305%3A+Support+atomic+for+CREATE+TABLE+AS+SELECT%28CTAS%29+statement
> [3]:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-303%3A+Support+REPLACE+TABLE+AS+SELECT+statement
>
> :) just notice I miss "[DISCUSS]" in the title of the previous email [4],
> so I send it again here with the correct email title. Please ignore the
> previous email and discuss in this thread.
> Sorry for the noise.
>
> [4]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/jy39xwxn1o2035y5411xynwtbyfgg76t
>
>
> Best regards,
> Yuxia
>

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