Hello Samrat,

Sorry for the late response.

+1 for a native Glue Data Catalog integration. We have
internally developed a Glue Data Catalog catalog implementation that shims
hive. We have been meaning to contribute, but this solution can replace our
internal one.

+1 for putting this in the flink-connector-aws. With regards to
configuration, we have a flink-connector-aws-base [1] module where all the
common configurations should go. Anything common, such as authentication
providers, please use. Additionally any new configurations you need to add
please consider them going into aws-base if they might be reusable for
other AWS integrations.

> We will create an e2e integration test cases capturing all the
implementation in a mock environment.

It looks like localstack supports glue [2], we already use localstack for
integration tests so we can follow suite here.

Thanks,
Danny

[1]
https://github.com/apache/flink-connector-aws/tree/main/flink-connector-aws-base
[2] https://docs.localstack.cloud/user-guide/aws/glue/

On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 12:18 PM Samrat Deb <decordea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Konstantin Knauf,
>
> Can you explain how users are expected to authenticate with AWS Glue? I
>> don't see any catalog options regardng authx. So I assume the credentials
>> are taken from the environment?
>
>
> We are planning to put GlueCatalog in flink-connector-aws[1].
> flink-connector-aws already provides base and already built AwsConfigs[2].
> These configs can be reused for the Catalog purpose also.
> I will update the FLIP-277[3] with the auth related configs in the
> Configuration Section.
>
> Users can pass these values as a part of config in catalog creation and if
> not provided it will try to fetch from the environment.
> This will allow users to create multiple catalog instances on the same
> session pointing to different accounts. ( I haven't tested multi
> account glue catalog instances during POC) .
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/flink-connector-aws
> <https://github.com/apache/flink-connector-aws/blob/main/flink-connector-aws-base/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/connector/aws/config/AWSConfigConstants.java>
> [2]
> https://github.com/apache/flink-connector-aws/blob/main/flink-connector-aws-base/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/connector/aws/config/AWSConfigConstants.java
> [3]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-277%3A+Native+GlueCatalog+Support+in+Flink
>
> Bests,
> Samrat
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 5:32 PM Samrat Deb <decordea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jark,
>> Apologies for late reply.
>> Thank you for your valuable input.
>>
>> Besides, I have a question about Glue Namespace. Could you share the
>>> documentation of the Glue
>>>  Namespaces? (Sorry, I didn't find it.) According to the "Flink Glue
>>> Metaspace Mapping" section,
>>> if there is a database "mydb" under namespace "ns1", is that mean the
>>> database name in Flink is "ns1.mydb"?
>>
>> There is no concept of namespace in glue data catalog.
>> There are 3 levels in glue data catalog
>> - catalog
>> - database
>> - table
>>
>> I have added the mapping in FLIP-277[1]. and updated it .
>> it is directly database name from flink to database name in glue
>> Please ignore the typo leftover in doc previously.
>>
>> Best,
>> Samrat
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 8:38 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Samrat,
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for driving the new catalog, and sorry for jumping into the
>>> discussion late.
>>>
>>> As Flink SQL is becoming the first-class citizen of the Flink API, we are
>>> planning to push Catalog
>>> to become the first-class citizen of the connector instead of Source &
>>> Sink. For Flink SQL users,
>>> using Catalog is as natural and user-friendly as working with databases,
>>> rather than having to define
>>> DDL and schemas over and over again. This is also how Trino/Presto does.
>>>
>>> Regarding the repo for the Glue catalog, I think we can add it to
>>> flink-connector-aws. We don't need
>>> separate repos for Catalogs because Catalog is a kind of connector
>>> (others
>>> are sources & sinks).
>>> For example, MySqlCatalog[1] and PostgresCatalog[2] are in
>>> flink-connector-jdbc, and HiveCatalog is
>>> in flink-connector-hive. This can reduce repository maintenance, and I
>>> think maybe some common
>>> AWS utils can be shared there.  cc @Danny Cranmer <
>>> dannycran...@apache.org>
>>> what do you think about this?
>>>
>>> Besides, I have a question about Glue Namespace. Could you share the
>>> documentation of the Glue
>>>  Namespaces? (Sorry, I didn't find it.) According to the "Flink Glue
>>> Metaspace Mapping" section,
>>> if there is a database "mydb" under namespace "ns1", is that mean the
>>> database name in Flink is "ns1.mydb"?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jark
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-connectors/flink-connector-jdbc/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/connector/jdbc/catalog/MySqlCatalog.java
>>> [2]:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-connectors/flink-connector-jdbc/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/connector/jdbc/catalog/PostgresCatalog.java
>>>
>>> On Fri, 9 Dec 2022 at 08:51, Dong Lin <lindon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Samrat,
>>> >
>>> > Sorry for the late reply. Yeah I am referring to creating a similar
>>> > external repo such as flink-catalog-glue. flink-connector-aws is
>>> already
>>> > named with `connector` so it seems a bit weird to put a catalog there.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > Dong
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 1:04 PM Samrat Deb <decordea...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi Dong Lin,
>>> > >
>>> > > Since this is the first proposal for adding a vendor-specific catalog
>>> > > > library in Flink, I think maybe we should also externalize those
>>> > catalog
>>> > > > libraries similar to how we are externalizing connector libraries.
>>> It
>>> > is
>>> > > > likely that we might want to add catalogs for other vectors in the
>>> > > future.
>>> > > > Externalizing those catalogs can make Flink development more
>>> scalable
>>> > in
>>> > > > the long term.
>>> > >
>>> > > Initially i mis-interpretted externalising the catalogs, There
>>> already
>>> > > exists an externalised connector for aws [1].
>>> > > Are you referring to creating a similar external repo for catalogs or
>>> > will
>>> > > it be better to add it in flink-connector-aws[1] ?
>>> > >
>>> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/flink-connector-aws
>>> > >
>>> > > Samrat
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:52 PM Samrat Deb <decordea...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Hi Dong Lin,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Aws Glue Data catalog is vendor specific and in future we will get
>>> such
>>> > > > type of implementation from different providers. We should
>>> > > > definitely externalize these catalog libraries similar to flink
>>> > > connectors.
>>> > > > I am thinking of creating
>>> > > > flink-catalog similar to flink-connector under the root (flink).
>>> glue
>>> > > > catalog can be one of modules under the flink-catalog . Please
>>> suggest
>>> > if
>>> > > > there is a better structure we can create for catalogs.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > It is mentioned in the FLIP that there will be two types of
>>> > SdkHttpClient
>>> > > >> supported based on the catalog option http-client.type. Is
>>> > > >> http-client.type
>>> > > >> a public config for the GlueCatalog? If yes, can we add this
>>> config to
>>> > > the
>>> > > >> "Configurations" section and explain how users should choose the
>>> > client
>>> > > >> type?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > yes http-client.type is public config for the GlueCatalog. By
>>> default
>>> > > > client-type will be `urlconnection` , if user don't specify any
>>> > > connection
>>> > > > type.
>>> > > > I have updated the FLIP-277[1] #configuration section with all the
>>> > > configs
>>> > > > . Please review it again .
>>> > > >
>>> > > > [1]
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-277%3A+Native+GlueCatalog+Support+in+Flink
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Samrat
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 5:50 PM Samrat Deb <decordea...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> Hi Yuxia,
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Thank you for reviewing the flip and putting forward your
>>> observations
>>> > > >> and comments.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> 1: I noticed there's a YAML part in the section of "Using the
>>> > Catalog",
>>> > > >>> what do you mean by that? Do you mean how to use glue catalog in
>>> sql
>>> > > >>> client? If so, just for your information, it's not supported to
>>> use
>>> > > yaml
>>> > > >>> envrioment file in sql client[2].
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Thank you for attaching the jira ticket [1] . I missed the
>>> changes.
>>> > > >> There is a provision to register catalog directly through factory
>>> > > resources
>>> > > >> .
>>> > > >> - GenericInMemoryCatalog is defined through
>>> > > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> `flink/flink-table/flink-table-api-java/src/main/resources/META-INF/services/org.apache.flink.table.factories.Factory`
>>> > > >> - HiveCatalog is defined through
>>> > > >> path
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> `flink-connectors/flink-connector-hive/src/main/resources/META-INF/services/org.apache.flink.table.factories.Factory`
>>> > > >> Similarly on the vendor specific module for Aws Glue we can
>>> define it.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> 2: Seems there's a typo in "Design#views" part, it contains
>>> > "listTables"
>>> > > >>> which I think shouldn't be contained.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> oh yes 😅 ! fixed it now thanks for pointing it out.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Also, I'm curious about how to list views using Glue API. Is
>>> there an
>>> > > >>> on-hand api to list views directly or we need to list the tables
>>> and
>>> > > then
>>> > > >>> filter the views using the table-kind?
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> yes there is no in-hand api for list views directly , we need to
>>> list
>>> > > all
>>> > > >> tables and then filter the views based on attribute tableKind
>>> which
>>> > is a
>>> > > >> part of table object in api response.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> 3: In "Flink Glue DataType Mapping" part, CharType is mapped to
>>> > String.
>>> > > >>> It seems the char's size will lose, is it possible to have a
>>> better
>>> > > mapping
>>> > > >>> which won't loss the size of char type?
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Thanks for pointing this out ! I have updated the flip with the
>>> > correct
>>> > > >> type. Initilially i mapped chartype , varchar type to string but
>>> > > updated it
>>> > > >> to directly map to the same type .
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> 4: About the "Flink CatalogFunction mapping with Glue Function"
>>> part,
>>> > > >>> how do we map the function language in Flink's CatalogFunction.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Glue Api (UserDefinedFunctionInput) doesn't support specific
>>> attribute
>>> > > >> for function language. Here is how aws hive compatible metastore
>>> is
>>> > > mapping
>>> > > >> hive function to glue function[2]. We will append a prefix of
>>> Language
>>> > > in
>>> > > >> the function name itself indicating the language. I see this has
>>> been
>>> > > >> already done for the Hive Catalog [3]. We are thinking of
>>> implementing
>>> > > it
>>> > > >> in the same way.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-22540
>>> > > >> [2]
>>> > > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/awslabs/aws-glue-data-catalog-client-for-apache-hive-metastore/blob/master/aws-glue-datacatalog-client-common/src/main/java/com/amazonaws/glue/catalog/converters/GlueInputConverter.java#L83
>>> > > >> [3]
>>> > > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-connectors/flink-connector-hive/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/table/catalog/hive/HiveCatalog.java#L1415
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Samrat
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 4:33 PM Dong Lin <lindon...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> Hi Samrat,
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> Thanks for the FLIP!
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> Since this is the first proposal for adding a vendor-specific
>>> catalog
>>> > > >>> library in Flink, I think maybe we should also externalize those
>>> > > catalog
>>> > > >>> libraries similar to how we are externalizing connector
>>> libraries. It
>>> > > is
>>> > > >>> likely that we might want to add catalogs for other vectors in
>>> the
>>> > > >>> future.
>>> > > >>> Externalizing those catalogs can make Flink development more
>>> scalable
>>> > > in
>>> > > >>> the long term.
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> It is mentioned in the FLIP that there will be two types of
>>> > > SdkHttpClient
>>> > > >>> supported based on the catalog option http-client.type. Is
>>> > > >>> http-client.type
>>> > > >>> a public config for the GlueCatalog? If yes, can we add this
>>> config
>>> > to
>>> > > >>> the
>>> > > >>> "Configurations" section and explain how users should choose the
>>> > client
>>> > > >>> type?
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> Regards,
>>> > > >>> Dong
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 12:31 PM Samrat Deb <
>>> decordea...@gmail.com>
>>> > > >>> wrote:
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> > Hi everyone,
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>> > I would like to open a discussion[1] on providing GlueCatalog
>>> > support
>>> > > >>> > in Flink.
>>> > > >>> > Currently, Flink offers 3 major types of catalog[2]. Out of
>>> which
>>> > > only
>>> > > >>> > HiveCatalog is a persistent catalog backed by Hive Metastore.
>>> We
>>> > > would
>>> > > >>> like
>>> > > >>> > to introduce GlueCatalog in Flink offering another option for
>>> users
>>> > > >>> which
>>> > > >>> > will be persistent in nature. Aws Glue data catalog is a
>>> > centralized
>>> > > >>> data
>>> > > >>> > catalog in AWS cloud that provides integrations with many
>>> different
>>> > > >>> > connectors[3]. Flink GlueCatalog can use the features provided
>>> by
>>> > > glue
>>> > > >>> and
>>> > > >>> > create strong integration with other services in the cloud.
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>> > [1]
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-277%3A+Native+GlueCatalog+Support+in+Flink
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>> > [2]
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://nightlies.apache.org/flink/flink-docs-master/docs/dev/table/catalogs/
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>> > [3]
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/glue/latest/dg/components-overview.html#data-catalog-intro
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>> > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29549
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>> > Bests
>>> > > >>> > Samrat
>>> > > >>> >
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>

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