Was the reason to combine them the desire to have two parameters vs. three,
or was there another motivation?

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:02 PM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com> wrote:

> FWIW I received a lot of early feedback explicitly asking me to couple the
> statefun specific operations with the Context (why the runtime type went
> away).
>
> Seth
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 10:32 AM Galen Warren <ga...@cvillewarrens.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for looking into this!
> >
> > The issue I think we'd run into with your proposal is that, often,
> > libraries use non-exported types for context keys. Here is an example
> > <https://github.com/knative/pkg/blob/d48172451966/logging/logger.go#L45
> >;
> > in this case, the non-exported loggerKey{} is used as the key, inside the
> > exported WithLogger function. The key that would have to be supplied to
> the
> > proposed Value and WithValue functions would not be accessible in this
> > case.
> >
> > Honestly, if *everything *were on the table -- and understand it very
> well
> > might not be -- I'd suggest decoupling the Golang context.Context and the
> > statefun Context, i.e. have two separate parameters to
> > StatefulFunction.Invoke representing Golang context and statefun
> > operations. This is actually how things were in an earlier version of the
> > Golang SDK; the first parameter to Invoke was the plain-vanilla
> > context.Context and a separate parameter provided the statefun "runtime".
> > So maybe something like this:
> >
> > >
> > > type StatefulFunction interface {
> > > Invoke(ctx context.Context, runtime Runtime, message Message) error
> > > }
> >
> >
> > ... instead of the current:
> >
> > type StatefulFunction interface {
> > > Invoke(ctx Context, message Message) error
> > > }
> >
> >
> > ... where Runtime would be everything currently in statefun.Context,
> except
> > the context.Context part. This would allow context.Context to be
> > manipulated and passed around normally.
> >
> > I think this could potentially be done in a backward-compatible way,
> with a
> > new set of types and methods, e.g. StatefulFunctionV2,
> > StatefufFunctionSpecV2, StatefulFunctions.WithSpecV2, etc. Or it could be
> > done in an almost backward-compatible way, by changing the existing
> > StatefulFunction, StatefulFunctionSpec, StatefulFunctions.WithSpec and
> > providing an adapter for people who want to continue to use the
> > two-parameter version of Invoke.
> >
> > If those kinds of changes are a non-starter, then IMO the next best
> option
> > would be adding something like:
> >
> > PrepareContext func(ctx statefun.Context) context.Context
> >
> >
> > ... to StatefulFunctionSpec to allow a one-time customization of the
> > underlying context at the beginning of a stateful function invocation.
> That
> > would cover a lot of use cases.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 3:06 AM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks a lot for clarifying the problem. I think I now understand the
> > > problem. As you've probably figured out, I have no clue about Go and
> > > its usage of the Context type.
> > >
> > > After looking into it a bit I was wondering whether we can't follow a
> > > similar route as it is done for the Context type. By adding something
> > like
> > >
> > > type valueCtx struct {
> > > Context
> > > key, val interface{}
> > > }
> > >
> > > func (c *valueCtx) Value(key interface{}) interface{} {
> > > if c.key == key {
> > > return c.val
> > > }
> > > return c.Context.Value(key)
> > > }
> > >
> > > func WithValue(parent Context, key, val interface{}) Context {
> > > if parent == nil {
> > > panic("cannot create context from nil parent")
> > > }
> > > if key == nil {
> > > panic("nil key")
> > > }
> > > return &valueCtx{parent, key, val}
> > > }
> > >
> > > to the statefun/context.go we would allow to extend a Statefun context
> > with
> > > values w/o changing the underlying instance. If statefun.Context is not
> > > needed, then there is already the option to unwrap the context.Context
> > and
> > > to extend it with values and then pass on this instance. But maybe this
> > is
> > > no idiomatic Go. Let me know what you think.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Till
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 7:01 PM Galen Warren <ga...@cvillewarrens.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hmm ... a downside to my proposal is that Go contexts are supposed to
> > be
> > > > immutable, i.e. when adding a custom value to a context, a new
> context
> > is
> > > > created with the new value and the old context isn't changed.
> Changing
> > > the
> > > > context.Context associated with the statefun.Context sort of goes
> > against
> > > > the spirit of that, i.e. a consumer of statefun.Context could see
> > custom
> > > > values change unexpectedly if another consumer of the same
> > > statefun.Context
> > > > modified the underlying context.Context.
> > > >
> > > > To avoid that, I think we'd be back to having some mechanism to
> > customize
> > > > the underlying context.Context once, when the statefun.Context is
> > created
> > > > at the beginning of a stateful function invocation. Adding a field
> > like:
> > > >
> > > > PrepareContext func(ctx statefun.Context) context.Context
> > > >
> > > > ... to the StatefulFunctionSpec struct could accomplish that, i.e. if
> > > > PrepareContext were supplied, the context could be customized once at
> > the
> > > > start of a function invocation and then left immutable after that
> > point.
> > > >
> > > > (Using statefun.Context as the input is deliberate here, in order to
> > > allow
> > > > the context.Context to be populated using values from the
> > > statefun.Context,
> > > > for example the function id).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:34 AM Galen Warren <
> ga...@cvillewarrens.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > An example of passing it around would be:
> > > > >
> > > > > func (f *MyFunc) Invoke(ctx statefun.Context, message
> > statefun.Message)
> > > > > error {
> > > > >
> > > > >     logger := NewLogger()
> > > > >     ctx.SetContext(ctxzap.ToContext(ctx, logger))
> > > > >
> > > > >     return SomeOtherFunc(ctx)
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > func SomeOtherFunc(ctx context.Context) error {
> > > > >
> > > > >     logger := ctxzap.Extract(ctx)
> > > > >     logger.Info(...)
> > > > >
> > > > >     return nil
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > This would also work with further nested calls, so long as the
> > context
> > > is
> > > > > passed to them.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:23 AM Galen Warren <
> > ga...@cvillewarrens.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Ha, our emails keep passing.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've been playing around with options locally, and the SetContext
> > > option
> > > > >> seems to be the most flexible (and non-breaking), imo.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The implementation would be trivial, just add:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> SetContext(ctx context.Context)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ... to the statefun.Context interface, which is implemented as:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> func (s *statefunContext) SetContext(ctx context.Context) {
> > > > >> s.Context = ctx
> > > > >> }
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:18 AM Austin Cawley-Edwards <
> > > > >> austin.caw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> It would be helpful to have a small example though, if you have
> on
> > > > Galen,
> > > > >>> to see how you're passing it around.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:10 AM Austin Cawley-Edwards <
> > > > >>> austin.caw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > Looking through the statefun Context interface, it indeed
> doesn't
> > > > give
> > > > >>> > access to the underlying context.Context and the only
> > > implementation
> > > > is
> > > > >>> > package-private [1]. I don't think there would be a way to
> update
> > > the
> > > > >>> > statfun.Context interface without introducing breaking changes,
> > but
> > > > if
> > > > >>> we
> > > > >>> > were to make that implementation public, that might be a
> stopgap
> > > > >>> solution.
> > > > >>> > e.g.,
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > ```
> > > > >>> > type StatefunContext struct {
> > > > >>> > // expose embedded context
> > > > >>> > context.Context
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > // make the mutext private
> > > > >>> > mu sync.Mutex
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > // keep internals private
> > > > >>> > self     Address
> > > > >>> > caller   *Address
> > > > >>> > storage  *storage
> > > > >>> > response *protocol.FromFunction_InvocationResponse
> > > > >>> > }
> > > > >>> > ```
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > You could then do a type assertion in the handlers for this
> type
> > of
> > > > >>> > context, and modify the context on it directly. It would be a
> bit
> > > > >>> ugly, but
> > > > >>> > may work.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > ```
> > > > >>> > func (s aFunc) Invoke(ctx Context, message Message) error {
> > > > >>> >   if sCtx, ok := ctx.(*statefun.StatefunContext); ok {
> > > > >>> >     sCtx.Context = context.WithValue(sCtx.Context, "logger",
> > > aLogger)
> > > > >>> >   }
> > > > >>> >   // ...
> > > > >>> > }
> > > > >>> > ```
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Let me know what you all think,
> > > > >>> > Austin
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > [1]:
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink-statefun/blob/1dfe226d85fea05a46c8ffa688175b4c0f2d4900/statefun-sdk-go/v3/pkg/statefun/context.go#L66-L73
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:03 AM Galen Warren <
> > > > ga...@cvillewarrens.com
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > wrote:
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >> Sorry Austin, I didn't see your response before I replied.
> Yes,
> > > > we're
> > > > >>> >> saying the same thing.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 10:56 AM Austin Cawley-Edwards <
> > > > >>> >> austin.caw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > Hey all, jumping in. This makes sense to me – for instance
> to
> > > > >>> attach a
> > > > >>> >> > logger with some common metadata, e.g trace ID for the
> > request?
> > > > >>> This is
> > > > >>> >> > common in go to add arbitrary items without updating the
> > method
> > > > >>> >> signatures,
> > > > >>> >> > similar to thread local storage in Java.
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 10:53 AM Till Rohrmann <
> > > > >>> trohrm...@apache.org>
> > > > >>> >> > wrote:
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> > > Thanks for the clarification Galen. If you call the other
> Go
> > > > >>> >> functions,
> > > > >>> >> > > then you could also pass the other values as separate
> > > arguments
> > > > to
> > > > >>> >> these
> > > > >>> >> > > functions, can't you?
> > > > >>> >> > >
> > > > >>> >> > > Cheers,
> > > > >>> >> > > Till
> > > > >>> >> > >
> > > > >>> >> > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 3:31 PM Galen Warren <
> > > > >>> ga...@cvillewarrens.com
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> > > wrote:
> > > > >>> >> > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > The former.
> > > > >>> >> > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > I think there's potential for confusion here because
> we're
> > > > >>> using the
> > > > >>> >> > > > word *function
> > > > >>> >> > > > *in a couple of senses. One sense is a *stateful
> > function*;
> > > > >>> another
> > > > >>> >> > sense
> > > > >>> >> > > > is a *Go function*.
> > > > >>> >> > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > What I'm looking to do is to put values in the Context
> so
> > > that
> > > > >>> >> > downstream
> > > > >>> >> > > > Go functions that receive the context can access those
> > > values.
> > > > >>> Those
> > > > >>> >> > > > downstream Go functions would be called during one
> > > invocation
> > > > >>> of the
> > > > >>> >> > > > stateful function.
> > > > >>> >> > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 6:48 AM Till Rohrmann <
> > > > >>> trohrm...@apache.org
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> >> > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > Hi Galen,
> > > > >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > Am I understanding it correctly, that you would like
> to
> > > set
> > > > >>> some
> > > > >>> >> > values
> > > > >>> >> > > > in
> > > > >>> >> > > > > the Context of function A that is then accessible in a
> > > > >>> downstream
> > > > >>> >> > call
> > > > >>> >> > > of
> > > > >>> >> > > > > function B? Or would you like to set a value that is
> > > > >>> accessible
> > > > >>> >> once
> > > > >>> >> > > > > function A is called again (w/ or w/o the same id)?
> > > > >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >>> >> > > > > Till
> > > > >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 10:59 PM Galen Warren <
> > > > >>> >> > ga...@cvillewarrens.com
> > > > >>> >> > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > Also, a potentially simpler way to support this
> would
> > be
> > > > to
> > > > >>> add
> > > > >>> >> a
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > SetContext method to the statefun.Context interface,
> > and
> > > > >>> have it
> > > > >>> >> > > assign
> > > > >>> >> > > > > the
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > wrapped context. This would not require changes to
> the
> > > > >>> function
> > > > >>> >> > spec,
> > > > >>> >> > > > or
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > anything else, and would be more flexible.
> > > > >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 1:05 PM Galen Warren <
> > > > >>> >> > > ga...@cvillewarrens.com>
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > Thanks for the quick reply!
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > What I'm trying to do is put some things into the
> > > > context
> > > > >>> so
> > > > >>> >> that
> > > > >>> >> > > > > they're
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > available in downstream calls, perhaps in methods
> > with
> > > > >>> pointer
> > > > >>> >> > > > > receivers
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > to
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > the function struct (MyFunc) but also perhaps in
> > > methods
> > > > >>> that
> > > > >>> >> are
> > > > >>> >> > > > > further
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > downstream that don't have access to MyFunc. If
> I'm
> > > > >>> >> understanding
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > correctly, your proposal would work for the former
> > but
> > > > >>> not the
> > > > >>> >> > > > latter.
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > An example would be to put a configured Logger
> into
> > > the
> > > > >>> >> context
> > > > >>> >> > > via a
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > WithLogger method (logging package -
> > > > >>> knative.dev/pkg/logging
> > > > >>> >> -
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > pkg.go.dev
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > <
> > > https://pkg.go.dev/knative.dev/pkg/logging#WithLogger
> > > > >)
> > > > >>> and
> > > > >>> >> > then
> > > > >>> >> > > > pull
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > it
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > out downstream via FromContext (logging package -
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > knative.dev/pkg/logging
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > - pkg.go.dev <
> > > > >>> >> > > https://pkg.go.dev/knative.dev/pkg/logging#FromContext
> > > > >>> >> > > > > >).
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 5:50 PM Seth Wiesman <
> > > > >>> >> > sjwies...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> Hi Galen,
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> No, that is not currently supported, the current
> > > > >>> idiomatic
> > > > >>> >> way
> > > > >>> >> > > would
> > > > >>> >> > > > > be
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > to
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> pass those values to the struct implementing the
> > > > Statefun
> > > > >>> >> > > interface.
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> type MyFunc struct { someRuntimeInfo string }
> func
> > (m
> > > > >>> >> *MyFunc)
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > Invoke(ctx
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> statefun.Context, message statefun.Message) error
> > { }
> > > > >>> func
> > > > >>> >> > main()
> > > > >>> >> > > {
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> builder
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> := statefun.StatefulFunctionsBuilder()
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> f := MyFunc { someRuntimeInfo:
> "runtime-provided" }
> > > > >>> >> > > builder.WithSpec
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> (statefun.StatefulFunctionSpec{ FunctionType:
> > > > >>> >> > > statefun.TypeNameFrom(
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> "example/my-func"), Function: f })
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> http.Handle("/statefun", builder.AsHandler())
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> _ = http.ListenAndServe(":8000", nil) }
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> Would this work for you? Or what is the context
> > (pun
> > > > >>> >> intended)
> > > > >>> >> > you
> > > > >>> >> > > > are
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> looking for?
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> Seth
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 4:35 PM Galen Warren <
> > > > >>> >> > > > ga...@cvillewarrens.com
> > > > >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > When stateful functions are invoked, they are
> > > passed
> > > > an
> > > > >>> >> > instance
> > > > >>> >> > > > of
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > statefun.Context, which wraps the
> context.Context
> > > > >>> received
> > > > >>> >> by
> > > > >>> >> > > the
> > > > >>> >> > > > > HTTP
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > request. Is there any way to customize that
> > > > >>> context.Context
> > > > >>> >> > to,
> > > > >>> >> > > > say,
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> hold
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > custom values, using ctx.WithValue()? I don't
> > see a
> > > > way
> > > > >>> >> but I
> > > > >>> >> > > > wanted
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > to
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > ask.
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > If not, would you be interested in a PR to add
> > this
> > > > >>> >> > > > functionality? A
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> simple
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > way might be to add a property to
> > > > StatefulFunctionSpec,
> > > > >>> >> say:
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > TransformContext func(ctx context.Context)
> > > > >>> context.Context
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > ... that, if supplied, would be called to
> create
> > a
> > > > >>> >> customized
> > > > >>> >> > > > > context
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> that
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > would be used downstream?
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > Thanks.
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >>> >> > > >
> > > > >>> >> > >
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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