Thanks, Seth. Yea this looks perfect.

I had a feeling I'd need to get deep into things, and no time like the
present haha.

May ask for more guidance with those inner workings to get a bit of a road
map. But that gets into the feature idea and beyond the scope of this
thread's original question so I'll just do that in a jira ticket in a bit.
Just wanted this so I could structure the ticket and plan of attack better.

Thanks!!

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022, 2:03 PM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> I think the class you're looking for is StatusWatermarkValve. Note that
> this is fairly deep into the runtime stack.
>
> Seth
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 2:34 PM Jeff Carter <jpcarter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Till.
> >
> > That definitely helps a bit. I'm still not seeing where there is some
> idle
> > variable that the output.markIdle is setting to true (or whatever it
> sets).
> > Like the ideal thing would be if there is just some "output.isIdle()"
> that
> > could be called to know if the stream is or isnt idle. Since that doesn't
> > exist, what is the variable in "output" that dictates if it is idle or
> not
> > that that I'd just have to make an isIdle() method to make its state
> > visible to other code.
> >
> > I see the checkIfIdle() method in the code (in at least the testing
> piece)
> > you pointed out, but that seems like it's just a way to set a timer and
> > check if the idle state should be set or not. But I dont know if that's
> > setting some isIdle variable or if it's just checked and calculated
> > everytime and that method is basically the variable I'm looking for. But
> > that might just be my confusion.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 11:05 AM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > I think this happens in the WatermarksWithIdleness [1].
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-core/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/api/common/eventtime/WatermarksWithIdleness.java#L73
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Till
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 6:05 PM Jeff Carter <jpcarter...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm looking into making a feature for flink related to watermarks and
> > am
> > > > digging into the inner watermark mechanisms, specifically with
> > idleness.
> > > > I'm familiar with idleness, but digging into the root code I can only
> > get
> > > > to where idlenessTimeout gets set in
> > WatermarkStrategyWithIdleness.java.
> > > >
> > > >  But what I'm looking for the pieces beyond that. If I set the
> idleness
> > > to
> > > > 500 milliseconds, where in the code does it actually go "I haven't
> > seen a
> > > > message in 500 milliseconds. I'm setting this stream to idle."?
> > > >
> > > > The reason being that what I'm thinking of would need to be able to
> see
> > > if
> > > > any streams are marked idle, and if so react accordingly.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help in advance.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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