As @Matthias Pohl <matth...@ververica.com> mentioned, I agree that no1 is
to end up with consistency
regarding the assertions in our tests, but I also like how those assertions
shape up with the AssertJ approach.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 9:38 AM Francesco Guardiani <france...@ververica.com>
wrote:

> This is the result of experimenting around creating custom assertions for
> Table API types
> https://github.com/slinkydeveloper/flink/commit/
> d1ce37a62c2200b2c3008a9cc2cac91234222fd5[1]. I will PR it once the two PRs
> in the
> previous mail get merged
>
> On Monday, 22 November 2021 17:59:29 CET Francesco Guardiani wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Given I see generally consensus around having a convention and using
> > assertj, I propose to merge these 2 PRs:
> >
> > * Add the explanation of this convention in our code quality guide:
> > https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/482
> > * Add assertj to dependency management in the parent pom and link in the
> PR
> > template the code quality guide:
> https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/17871
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Once we merge those, I'll work in the next days to add some custom
> > assertions in table-common for RowData and Row (commonly asserted
> > everywhere in the table codebase).
> >
> > @Matthias Pohl <matth...@ververica.com> about the confluence page, it
> seems
> > a bit outdated, judging from the last modified date. I propose to
> continue
> > to use this guide
> > https://flink.apache.org/contributing/code-style-and-quality-common.html
> as
> > it seems more complete.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 8:58 AM Matthias Pohl <matth...@ververica.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Agree. Clarifying once more what our preferred option is here, is a
> good
> > > idea. So, +1 for unification. I don't have a strong opinion on what
> > > framework to use. But we may want to add this at the end of the
> discussion
> > > to our documentation (e.g. [1] or maybe the PR description?) to make
> users
> > > aware of it and be able to provide a reference in case it comes up
> again
> > > (besides this ML thread). Or do we already have something like that
> > > somewhere in the docs where I missed it?
> > >
> > > Matthias
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Best+Practices+and+Lesso
> > > ns+Learned>
> > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:13 AM Marios Trivyzas <mat...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> I'm also +1 both for unification and specifically for assertJ.
> > >> I think it covers a wide variety of assertions and as Francesco
> mentioned
> > >> it's easily extensible, so that
> > >> we can create custom assertions where needed, and avoid repeating test
> > >> code.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:57 AM David Morávek <d...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >> > I don't have any strong opinions on the asserting framework that we
> > >> > use,
> > >> > but big +1 for the unification.
> > >> >
> > >> > Best,
> > >> > D.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:37 AM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org
> >
> > >> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > Using JUnit5 with assertJ is fine with me if the community agrees.
> > >>
> > >> Having
> > >>
> > >> > > guides for best practices would definitely help with the
> transition.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > > Till
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 5:34 PM Francesco Guardiani <
> > >> > > france...@ververica.com>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > It is a bit unfortunate that we have tests that follow
> different
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > patterns.
> > >> > > > This, however, is mainly due to organic growth. I think the
> > >>
> > >> community
> > >>
> > >> > > > started with Junit4, then we chose to use Hamcrest because of
> its
> > >> >
> > >> > better
> > >> >
> > >> > > > expressiveness.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > That is fine, I'm sorry if my mail felt like a rant :)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Personally, I don't have a strong preference for which testing
> > >>
> > >> tools
> > >>
> > >> > to
> > >> >
> > >> > > > use. The important bit is that we agree as a community, then
> > >>
> > >> document
> > >>
> > >> > the
> > >> >
> > >> > > > choice and finally stick to it. So before starting to use
> assertj,
> > >>
> > >> we
> > >>
> > >> > > > should probably align with the folks working on the Junit5
> effort
> > >> >
> > >> > first.
> > >> >
> > >> > > > As Arvid pointed out, using assertj might help the people
> working



-- 
Marios

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