Hi Timo,

Thanks for joining the discussion. All rules except the unassigned rule do
not apply to Sub-Tasks actually (like deprioritization, closing).
Additionally, activity on a Sub-Taks counts as activity for the parent. So,
the parent ticket would not be touched by the bot as long as there is a
single Sub-Task that has a discussion or an update. If you experience
something different, this is a bug.

Is there a reason why it is important to assign all Sub-Tasks to the same
person immediately? I am not sure if this kind "reserving tickets" is a
good idea in general to be honest.

Cheers,

Konstantin





On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 12:00 PM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Konstantin,
>
> thanks for starting this discussion. I was also about to provide some
> feedback because I have the feeling that the bot is too aggressive at
> the moment.
>
> Even a 14 days interval is a short period of time for bigger efforts
> that might include several subtasks. Currently, if we split an issue
> into subtasks usually most subtasks are assigned to the same person. But
> the bot requires us to update all subtasks again after 7 days. Could we
> disable the bot for subtasks or extend the period to 30 days?
>
> The core problem in the past was that we had issues laying around
> untouched for years. Luckily, this is solved with the bot now. But going
> from years to 7 days spams the mail box quite a bit.
>
> Regards,
> Timo
>
>
> On 21.05.21 09:22, Konstantin Knauf wrote:
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > Could you elaborate on your comment on test instabilities? Would test
> > instabilities always get a fixVersion then?
> >
> > Background: Test instabilities are supposed to be Critical. Critical
> > tickets are deprioritized if they are unassigned and have not received an
> > update for 14 days.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Konstantin
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:34 AM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >> This would also cover test instabilities, which I personally believe
> should
> >> not be auto-deprioritized until they've been analyzed.
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 1:46 PM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I like this idea. +1 for your proposal Konstantin.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Till
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 1:30 PM Konstantin Knauf <
> >> konstan...@ververica.com
> >>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> Till and I recently discussed whether we should disable the
> >>>> "stale-blocker", "stale-critical", "stale-major" and "stale-minor"
> >> rules
> >>>> for tickets that have a fixVersion set. This would allow people to
> plan
> >>> the
> >>>> upcoming release without tickets being deprioritized by the bot during
> >>> the
> >>>> release cycle.
> >>>>
> >>>>  From my point of view, this is a good idea as long as we can agree to
> >> use
> >>>> the "fixVersion" a bit more conservatively. What do I mean by that? If
> >>> you
> >>>> would categorize tickets planned for an upcoming release into:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Must Have
> >>>> * Should Have
> >>>> * Nice-To-Have
> >>>>
> >>>> only "Must Have" and "Should Have" tickets should get a fixVersion.
> >> From
> >>> my
> >>>> observation, we currently often set the fixVersion if we just wished a
> >>>> feature was included in an upcoming release. Similarly, I often see
> >> bulk
> >>>> changes of fixVersion that "roll over" many tickets to the next
> release
> >>> if
> >>>> they have not made into the previous release although there is no
> >>> concrete
> >>>> plan to fix them or they have even become obsolete by then. Excluding
> >>> those
> >>>> from the bot would be counterproductive.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you think?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Konstantin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 2:25 PM Konstantin Knauf <kna...@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After some offline conversations, I think, it makes sense to already
> >>> open
> >>>>> this thread now in order to collect feedback and suggestions around
> >> the
> >>>>> Jira Bot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The following two changes I will do right away:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * increase "stale-assigned.stale-days" to 14 days (Marta, Stephan,
> >> Nico
> >>>>> have provided feedback that this is too aggressive).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * exclude Sub-Tasks from all rules except the "stale-assigned" rule
> >> (I
> >>>>> think, this was just an oversight in the original discussion.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Keep it coming.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Konstantin
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Konstantin Knauf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://twitter.com/snntrable
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://github.com/knaufk
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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