+1 from my side. The transition between DataStream and Table should be as
smooth as possible.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 5:00 PM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> @Dawid: It should be merged by tomorrow. It has been reviewed already. I
> will just wait a few hours to let this discussion settle.
>
> Regards,
> Timo
>
> On 21.04.21 14:14, Jark Wu wrote:
> > I also think this is an attractive feature which exposes Flink's CDC
> > engine to wider users and wider usage scenarios.
> > I'm also fine with merging it to release 1.13.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jark
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 17:00, Dawid Wysakowicz <dwysakow...@apache.org
> > <mailto:dwysakow...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Timo,
> >
> >     First of all, thanks for giving a good example of following the
> >     community agreements ;)
> >
> >     Do you have an ETA for when the feature can be merged?
> >
> >     Given that as you are saying, it mostly about adding a new API that
> >     would be marked as experimental and is rather well isolated from the
> >     rest of the system, I'd be fine with merging it to either 1.13.0 if
> >     there is a new RC or 1.13.1 otherwise. Of course if there are no
> >     objections from others.
> >
> >     Best,
> >
> >     Dawid
> >
> >     On 21/04/2021 10:52, Timo Walther wrote:
> >      > Hi everyone,
> >      >
> >      > sorry for being so late with this request, but fixing a couple of
> >     down
> >      > stream bugs had higher priority than this issue and were also
> >     blocking
> >      > it. Nevertheless, I would like to ask for permission to merge the
> >      > FLINK-19980[1] to the 1.13 branch as an experimental feature to
> add
> >      > the API methods `StreamTableEnvironment.fromChangelogStream` and
> >      > `StreamTableEnvironment.toChangelogStream`.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > It enables a smooth integration for DataStream<->Table API like:
> >      >
> >      > DataStream<Row> dataStream =
> >      >         env.fromElements(
> >      >                 Row.ofKind(RowKind.INSERT, "alice", 12),
> >      >                 Row.ofKind(RowKind.UPDATE_AFTER, "alice", 13),
> >      >                 Row.ofKind(RowKind.UPDATE_AFTER, "alice", 14));
> >      > tEnv
> >      >     .fromChangelogStream(
> >      >         dataStream,
> >      >         Schema.newBuilder().primaryKey("f0").build(),
> >      >         ChangelogMode.upsert()
> >      >     )
> >      >     .groupBy($("f0"))
> >      >     .select($("f0"), $("f1").sum())
> >      >     .execute()
> >      >     .print();
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > Reasons for this are:
> >      >
> >      > - It doesn't really add a new feature but only exposes
> functionality
> >      > that was merged before the feature freeze.
> >      >
> >      > - Most of the changes are API-related checks and docs.
> >      >
> >      > - It does not affect existing tests in any way. It is a completely
> >      > separate feature in a parallel stack of method calls and classes.
> >      >
> >      > - It gives a lot of value to the user as it allows to work with
> >      > changelog streams easily. A long requested functionality.
> >      >
> >      > - It allows users to play around with Flink's CDC engine without
> the
> >      > need of a connector (big blocker for adoption at the moment).
> >      >
> >      > - It helps in advertising Flink as a CDC engine.
> >      >
> >      > - It helps us gathering feedback and stabilize the CDC engine.
> Maybe
> >      > issues like FLINK-20374[2] would have been discovered earlier.
> >      >
> >      > - And most importantly: It gives the last old API method
> >      > (StreamTableEnvironment.toRetractStream) an alternative in the new
> >      > type system which means we could think about dropping it sooner.
> >      >
> >      > I don't know if there will be another RC, but this is the case, I
> >      > would strongly vote for including this issue if it has been
> accepted
> >      > in the review. Otherwise we could also discuss including it in
> Flink
> >      > 1.13.1.
> >      >
> >      > Happy to hear your opinions.
> >      >
> >      > Regards,
> >      > Timo
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-19980
> >     <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-19980>
> >      > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20374
> >     <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20374>
> >
>
>

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