Adding it as a warning of known issues to 1.12.1 release notes makes sense
to me. (If it doesn't get fixed in this release. I'm canceling 1.12.1-rc1
for another blocker.)

I'm not entirely sure about adding a warning to 1.12.0 release notes. Is it
how we usually do, adding warnings to release notes for bugs found after
the release?
Putting it another way, should we modify the release notes silently after
they are posted/published?

@Piotr,
Do we understand in which cases the recovery of unaligned checkpoints can
lead to a corrupted data stream? Or shall we suggest the users to never use
unaligned checkpoints for this version? Maybe you or Roman is the better
person to draft this warning?

Thank you~

Xintong Song



On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 6:10 PM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> wrote:

> Alright, thanks for the clarification. Should we issue a warning to not use
> unaligned checkpoints for the time being because it can lead to corrupted
> data streams on recovery? I can envision that some of our users might be
> surprised about it. Maybe adding it to the 1.12.0 and 1.12.1 release notes?
>
> Cheers,
> Till
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:50 AM Piotr Nowojski <pnowoj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes, as Xintong wrote above, I've wrote offline to him:
> >
> > > I’m going to remove release blocker status from FLINK-20654. After all
> we
> > already have released it, at least in 1.12.0, and maybe even sooner.
> There
> > is no point from blocking a release (which has probably some important
> bug
> > fixes) in that case. It’s not a new bug.
> >
> > By "it's not a new bug", I meant that it has already been released in
> > 1.12.0. Also after ignoring the test for the time being, this bug should
> > not be causing build failures anymore.
> >
> > Piotrek
> >
> > pon., 28 gru 2020 o 10:29 Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com>
> napisał(a):
> >
> > > Hi Till,
> > >
> > > @Piotr and @Roman mentioned offline that FLINK-20648 is not a new bug
> and
> > > they don't think we should block a release on it.
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess we should have made the conversation public visible. Sorry for
> > the
> > > confusion.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you~
> > >
> > > Xintong Song
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 4:59 PM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Xintong,
> > > >
> > > > quick question, what about FLINK-20654? Previously it was listed as a
> > > > release blocker but has not been fixed yet.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Till
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 10:52 AM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi devs,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm very glad to announce that all known blocker issues for
> > > > release-1.12.1
> > > > > have been resolved.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm creating our first release candidate now and will start a
> > separate
> > > > > voting thread as soon as RC1 is created.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks everyone, and Merry Christmas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you~
> > > > >
> > > > > Xintong Song
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 6:07 PM Xintong Song <
> tonysong...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi devs,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Updates on the progress of release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the past week, more than 20 issues were resolved for release
> > > 1.12.1.
> > > > > > Thanks for the efforts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We still have 3 unresolved release blockers at the moment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    - [FLINK-20648] Unable to restore from savepoints with
> > Kubernetes
> > > > HA.
> > > > > >    Consensus has been reached on the solution. @Yang Wang is
> > working
> > > > on a
> > > > > >    PR.
> > > > > >    - [FLINK-20654] Unaligned checkpoint recovery may lead to
> > > corrupted
> > > > > >    data stream.
> > > > > >    @Roman Khachatryan is still investigating the problem.
> > > > > >    - [FLINK-20664] Support setting service account for
> TaskManager
> > > pod.
> > > > > >    Boris Lublinsky has opened a PR, which is already reviewed and
> > > close
> > > > > >    to mergeable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since we are targeting a swift release, I'm not intended to
> further
> > > > delay
> > > > > > the release for other non-blocker issues, unless there's a good
> > > reason.
> > > > > > If there's anything that you believe is absolutely necessary for
> > > > release
> > > > > > 1.12.1, please reach out to me.
> > > > > > Otherwise, the voting process will be started as soon as the
> above
> > > > > > blockers are addressed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you~
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Xintong Song
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:05 AM Xingbo Huang <
> hxbks...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi Xintong,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks a lot for driving this.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I'd like to bring one more issue to your attention:
> > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20389.
> > > > > >> This issue occurs quite frequently. Arvid and Kezhu have done
> some
> > > > > >> investigations of this issue and it may indicate a bug of the
> new
> > > > Source
> > > > > >> API. It would be great to figure out the root cause of this
> issue.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Best,
> > > > > >> Xingbo
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> 于2020年12月18日周五 下午7:49写道:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Thanks for the replies so far.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I've been reaching out to the owners of the reported issues.
> It
> > > > seems
> > > > > >> most
> > > > > >> > of the blockers are likely resolved in the next few days.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Since some of the issues are quite critical, I'd like to aim
> > for a
> > > > > >> *feature
> > > > > >> > freeze on Dec. 23rd*, and start the release voting process by
> > the
> > > > end
> > > > > of
> > > > > >> > this week.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > If there's anything you might need more time for, please reach
> > out
> > > > to
> > > > > >> me.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Thank you~
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Xintong Song
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 3:19 PM Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai <
> > > > > >> tzuli...@apache.org>
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Thanks Xintong for driving this.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > I'd like to make two more issues related to the Kinesis
> > > connector
> > > > > >> changes
> > > > > >> > > in 1.12.0 a blocker for 1.12.1:
> > > > > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20630
> > > > > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20629
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > There are already PRs for these issues from @Cranmer, Danny
> > > > > >> > > <cranm...@amazon.com>, will try to merge these very soon.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Cheers,
> > > > > >> > > Gordon
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 1:19 PM Guowei Ma <
> > guowei....@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> Thanks for driving this release Xintong.
> > > > > >> > >> I think https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20652
> > > should
> > > > > be
> > > > > >> > >> addressed.
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> Best,
> > > > > >> > >> Guowei
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 11:53 AM Jingsong Li <
> > > > > jingsongl...@gmail.com
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > Thanks for volunteering as our release manager Xintong.
> +1
> > > for
> > > > > >> > releasing
> > > > > >> > >> > Flink 1.12.1 soon.
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > I think
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20665
> > > > should
> > > > > >> be
> > > > > >> > >> > addressed, I marked it as a Blocker.
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > Best,
> > > > > >> > >> > Jingsong
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 11:16 AM Yang Wang <
> > > > > danrtsey...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > > Hi David,
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > I will take a look this ticket FLINK-20648 and try to
> get
> > > it
> > > > > >> > resolved
> > > > > >> > >> in
> > > > > >> > >> > > this release cycle.
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > @Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > >> > > One more Kubernetes HA related issue. We need to
> support
> > > > > setting
> > > > > >> > >> service
> > > > > >> > >> > > account for TaskManager pod[1]. Even though we have a
> > work
> > > > > around
> > > > > >> > for
> > > > > >> > >> > this
> > > > > >> > >> > > issue, but it is not acceptable to always let the
> default
> > > > > service
> > > > > >> > >> account
> > > > > >> > >> > > with enough permissions.
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > [1]. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20664
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > Best,
> > > > > >> > >> > > Yang
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > David Morávek <david.mora...@gmail.com> 于2020年12月18日周五
> > > > > >> 上午12:47写道:
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > Hi, I think
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20648
> > > > > >> > >> should
> > > > > >> > >> > be
> > > > > >> > >> > > > addressed, as Kubernetes HA was one of the main
> selling
> > > > > points
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> > >> this
> > > > > >> > >> > > > release. WDYT?
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > D.
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > On 17. 12. 2020, at 13:54, Yun Tang <
> > myas...@live.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Thanks for driving this quick-fix release.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > +1 for fixing the bug of RocksDB state-backend with
> > > > reduce
> > > > > >> > >> operators.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Best
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Yun Tang
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > From: Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 20:51
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > To: dev <dev@flink.apache.org>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Releasing Apache Flink
> 1.12.1
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Thanks for volunteering as our release manager
> > Xintong.
> > > > +1
> > > > > >> for a
> > > > > >> > >> > swift
> > > > > >> > >> > > > bug
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > fix release.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Till
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 1:20 PM Xintong Song <
> > > > > >> > xts...@apache.org>
> > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> Hi devs,
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> It's been one week since we announced Apache Flink
> > > > 1.12.0,
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> > >> there
> > > > > >> > >> > > are
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> already many issues reported, some of which are
> > quite
> > > > > >> critical.
> > > > > >> > >> > Thus,
> > > > > >> > >> > > I
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> would like to start a discussion on releasing
> Flink
> > > > 1.12.1
> > > > > >> > soon.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> I would like to volunteer for managing this
> release.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> I've noticed the following issues that need to be
> > > > included
> > > > > >> in
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > >> > new
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> bugfix release.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>   - The entrypoint script for the official docker
> > > image
> > > > > does
> > > > > >> > not
> > > > > >> > >> > meet
> > > > > >> > >> > > > the
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>   standards of docker-library/official-images
> repo.
> > > [1]
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>   - Streaming jobs with window-less reduce
> operation
> > > do
> > > > > now
> > > > > >> > work
> > > > > >> > >> > with
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>   RocksDB state backend. [2]
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>   - @Stephan mentioned some Kafka fixes ([3] and
> > maybe
> > > > > more)
> > > > > >> > >> that he
> > > > > >> > >> > > > would
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>   try to make into this release.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>   - @Kurt mentioned a batch workload instability
> > > related
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> > >> managed
> > > > > >> > >> > > > memory
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>   being released slowly, which his team is
> currently
> > > > > >> > >> investigating
> > > > > >> > >> > and
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> would
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>   try to fix in this release.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> Apart from the issues above, please let us know in
> > > this
> > > > > >> thread
> > > > > >> > if
> > > > > >> > >> > > there
> > > > > >> > >> > > > are
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> any other fixes that we should try to include.
> I'll
> > > try
> > > > to
> > > > > >> > >> > communicate
> > > > > >> > >> > > > with
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> the issue owners and come up with a time
> estimation
> > > > early
> > > > > >> next
> > > > > >> > >> week.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> Xintong
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> [1]
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20650
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> [2]
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20646
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> [3]
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20379
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > --
> > > > > >> > >> > Best, Jingsong Lee
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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