Hi Thomas,

Just one quick answer from my side about:

> * notifyCheckpointAborted needed to be implemented
> for org.apache.flink.runtime.state.CheckpointListener - can we have the
> default implementation in the interface so that users aren't forced to
> change their implementations

This is intentional design [1]

> Implementers should generally be forced to think about what to do when 
> checkpoint is aborted.

Piotrek

[1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/8693#issuecomment-542834147

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> On 24 Jun 2020, at 10:35, Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for testing the RC and the feedback Thomas. The problem with the
> taskmanager options is that the old
> (taskmanager.initial-registration-pause) and new options
> (cluster.registration.initial-timeout) don't have the same type. The old
> options have not been used for a long time (since version 1.5.0) and we
> wanted to remove them. As part of the removal, we added the old keys as
> deprecated options for the new ones. I believe this was a mistake. I've
> opened a PR to remove the deprecated keys from the new ConfigOptions [1].
> 
> Please be aware that
> 
> "taskmanager.initial-registration-pause": "500ms",
> "taskmanager.max-registration-pause": "5s",
> "taskmanager.refused-registration-pause": "5s",
> 
> Shouldn't have any effects anymore (since version 1.5.0).
> 
> [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/12763
> 
> Cheers,
> Till
> 
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 4:17 AM Zhijiang <wangzhijiang...@aliyun.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Thomas,
>> 
>> Thanks for these valuable feedbacks and suggestions, and I think they are
>> very helpful for making us better.
>> 
>> I can give an direct answer for this issue:
>>> checkpoint alignment buffered metric missing - note that this job isn't
>> using the new unaligned checkpointing that should be opt-in.
>> 
>> The metric of checkpoint alignment buffered would be always 0 now, no
>> matter with unaligned checkpointing or not, so we removed this metric
>> directly.
>> The motivation for such change is from reducing in-flight buffers to speed
>> up checkpoint somehow. The upstream side would block sending any following
>> buffers after sending the barrier until receiving the alignment
>> notification from downstream side. Therefore, the downstream side never
>> needs to cache
>> buffers for blocked channels during alignment. We also illustrated such
>> changes in release notes for attention by link [1].
>> 
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/12699/files#diff-eaa874e007e88f283e96de2d61cc4140R174
>> 
>> Best,
>> Zhijiang
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> From:Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org>
>> Send Time:2020年6月24日(星期三) 06:51
>> To:dev <dev@flink.apache.org>
>> Cc:zhijiang <zhiji...@apache.org>
>> Subject:Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Flink 1.11.0, release candidate #2
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Thanks for putting together the RC!
>> 
>> I have some preliminary feedback from testing with commit
>> 934f91ead00fd658333f65ffa37ab60bd5ffd99b
>> 
>> An internal benchmark application that reads from Kinesis and checkpoints
>> ~12GB performs comparably to 1.10.1
>> 
>> There were a few issues hit upgrading our codebase that may be worthwhile
>> considering, please see details below.
>> 
>> Given my observations over the past few releases, I would like to suggest
>> that the community introduces a log of incompatible changes to be published
>> with the release notes. Though it is possible to analyze git history when
>> hitting compile errors, there are more subtle changes that can make
>> upgrades unnecessarily time-consuming. Contributors introducing such
>> changes are probably in the best position to document.
>> 
>> I'm planning to try this or the next RC with a couple more applications.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Thomas
>> 
>> * notifyCheckpointAborted needed to be implemented
>> for org.apache.flink.runtime.state.CheckpointListener - can we have the
>> default implementation in the interface so that users aren't forced to
>> change their implementations
>> 
>> * following deprecated configuration values had to be modified to get
>> the job running:
>> 
>>          "taskmanager.initial-registration-pause": "500ms",
>>          "taskmanager.max-registration-pause": "5s",
>>          "taskmanager.refused-registration-pause": "5s",
>> 
>> The error message was:
>> 
>> Could not parse value '500ms' for key
>> 'cluster.registration.initial-timeout'.\n\tat
>> 
>> org.apache.flink.configuration.Configuration.getOptional(Configuration.java:753)\n\tat
>> 
>> org.apache.flink.configuration.Configuration.getLong(Configuration.java:298)\n\tat
>> 
>> org.apache.flink.runtime.registration.RetryingRegistrationConfiguration.fromConfiguration(RetryingRegistrationConfiguration.java:72)\n\tat
>> 
>> org.apache.flink.runtime.taskexecutor.TaskManagerServicesConfiguration.fromConfiguration(TaskManagerServicesConfiguration.java:262)\n\tat
>> 
>> Though easy to fix, it's unfortunate that values are now treated
>> differently.
>> 
>> * checkpoint alignment buffered metric missing - note that this job isn't
>> using the new unaligned checkpointing that should be opt-in.
>> 
>> * -import org.apache.flink.table.api.java.StreamTableEnvironment;
>>  +import org.apache.flink.table.api.bridge.java.StreamTableEnvironment;
>> 
>> * -ClientUtils.executeProgram(DefaultExecutorServiceLoader.INSTANCE,
>> config, program.build());
>>    +ClientUtils.executeProgram(DefaultExecutorServiceLoader.INSTANCE,
>> config, program.build(),
>>              false, false);
>> 
>> * ProcessingTimeCallback removed from StreamingFileSink
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 6:29 AM Piotr Nowojski <pnowoj...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I would like to give an update about the RC2 status. We are now waiting
>> for
>>> a green azure build on one final bug fix before creating RC2. This bug
>> fix
>>> should be merged late afternoon/early evening Berlin time, so RC2 will be
>>> hopefully created tomorrow morning. Until then I would ask to not
>>> merge/backport commits to release-1.11 branch, including bug fixes. If
>> you
>>> have something that's truly essential and should be treated as a release
>>> blocker, please reach out to me or Zhijiang.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Piotr Nowojski
>>> 
>> 
>> 

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