Hi Seth,

I see, that's neat. I think it is a good idea moving the archetypes out of
the main repository into flink-playgrounds.

Best,

Konstantin



On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:47 PM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Konstantin,
>
> I am linking my working branch for what the playground might look like. It
> contains a Java application you can import into your IDE and then fill out
> the same way you do currently. It is still a code walkthrough. Docker
> allows users to actually run the completed app locally and not just in
> their IDE.
>
> [1] https://github.com/sjwiesman/flink-playgrounds/tree/walkthroughs
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 2:39 PM Konstantin Knauf <kna...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Seth,
> >
> > good catch! I agree this is important to fix.
> >
> > I don't quite understand the resolution you are proposing. The current
> > walkthrough for the Table API is a *code *walkthrough. How do you plan to
> > replace this by a dockerized playground? Drop the code walkthrough and
> add
> > a pure SQL playground?
> > Best,
> >
> > Kosntantin
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:27 PM Dawid Wysakowicz <dwysakow...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I am very much in favour of this effort.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Dawid
> >>
> >> On 09/06/2020 16:06, Seth Wiesman wrote:
> >> > Hi Everyone
> >> >
> >> > I am currently going through the documentation for 1.11 and noticed an
> >> > issue with the walkthroughs.
> >> >
> >> > Flink currently contains two walkthroughs for new users, one for data
> >> > stream and one for table[1, 2]. They both have corresponding maven
> >> > archetypes for users to create template projects with the proper
> >> > dependencies and follow along[3, 4].
> >> >
> >> > The table walkthrough was added several releases ago and now actively
> >> > exposes deprecated and even internal apis. These are meant to serve as
> >> > users first exposure to Flink and is not a good impression.
> >> >
> >> > To that end, I want to propose dropping the maven archetypes from 1.11
> >> and
> >> > adding new dockerized playgrounds to go along with the docs in the
> >> > flink-playgrounds repo.
> >> >
> >> > While we are past the feature freeze I think this is important and
> would
> >> > not affect release testing or 1.11's stability. I am volunteering to
> >> ensure
> >> > the work is completed before the release.
> >> >
> >> > Seth
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >> >
> >>
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/getting-started/walkthroughs/table_api.html
> >> > [2]
> >> >
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-walkthroughs/flink-walkthrough-table-java/src/main/resources/archetype-resources/src/main/java/SpendReport.java
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> >
> > Konstantin Knauf
> >
> > https://twitter.com/snntrable
> >
> > https://github.com/knaufk
> >
>


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