+1 (belated) for adding such a website with the name of flink-learning.org, especially if we could have a (virtual) team to maintain and prevent it from being stale.
Thanks for starting the discussion and driving this, Yuan! Best Regards, Yu On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 15:22, Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote: > Thanks for working on this! > > As a side note: If we are going to use flink-learning.org, the owner of > the > domain needs to request permission to use the Flink brand from the Flink > PMC. Feel free to reach out to me privately if you need help with this. I > have previously requested flink-packages.org from the PMC. > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 9:09 AM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Yuan, > > > > Thanks for proposal. It would be very helpful to have a well organized > > learning site for Flink usrs. I also like the idea and the name of > > flink-learning.org. It looks symmetric with flink-package.org. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:09 PM Yuan Mei <yuanmei.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Thanks, everyone for the feedback and suggestions! > > > > > > I was thinking about whether to call the external site as " > > > flink-learning.org"? > > > > > > If nobody disagrees upon this whole idea, we will start with a demo of > > the > > > least functionalities discussed > > > - several collections of learning materials (videos, ppts, blogs, > > > examples) with search > > > - meets up and other activities publishing > > > - and so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:33 PM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I think this is a very good idea. With a team committed to keep the > > site > > > up > > > > to date the main concern should also be resolved. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Till > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 5:25 PM Yuan Mei <yuanmei.w...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yep, Marta's concern is definitely a great point in terms of > > > maintenance > > > > > costs. > > > > > > > > > > What I would like to highlight is a place to collect scattered > > > materials > > > > > `altogether` so that they are easy to search, tag, and update. In > > that > > > > > sense, I really like Fabian's idea. > > > > > > > > > > It is even better if we could have some level of interaction so > that > > > > people > > > > > can comment and give feedback to the author directly and ask > > questions > > > > > under those materials. We can even analyze what type of materials > are > > > > more > > > > > popular based on feedback, and accordingly, we can adjust our > > promotion > > > > > strategy. I think these would be great complementation to what we > can > > > > > achieve solely through mailing lists, slack, or stack overflow > today. > > > > > > > > > > I can ask whether the team running to promote the Flink community > in > > > > China > > > > > can help to build such a site if appropriate. It should not be too > > > > > difficult if we do not intend to do fancy stuff :-). > > > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > > > Yuan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:54 PM Robert Metzger < > rmetz...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Fabian's idea is definitely nice, if we find somebody who wants > to > > > > > develop > > > > > > such a site :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Marta has raised valid concerns. Maybe we could start by > creating a > > > > Wiki > > > > > > page, that nicely categorizes the different items. > > > > > > I'm happy to prominently link the Wiki page from the "Powered By" > > and > > > > > > Starting page. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:05 AM Fabian Hueske < > fhue...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like the idea of having a place to collect material (blogs, > > talk > > > > > > > recordings, slides) on Flink. > > > > > > > As Robert said, we had this before and dropped it at some point > > > > because > > > > > > the > > > > > > > content became stale. > > > > > > > Also I feel we would need something more dynamic than a static > > > > website > > > > > > > (like flink.apache.org) but something with search, tags, > up/down > > > > > votes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think about collecting content on an external site > > > > similar > > > > > to > > > > > > > flink-packages.org. > > > > > > > Maybe flink-packages.org can be extended to also list content > > > pieces > > > > > or > > > > > > a > > > > > > > new page (flink-content.org/flink-materials.org/???) could be > > > built. > > > > > > > This is of course significantly more work, but might pay off > > > because > > > > it > > > > > > can > > > > > > > offer more interaction and we could also allow externals (i.e, > > > > > > > non-committers) to post new content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Fabian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Mo., 11. Mai 2020 um 09:44 Uhr schrieb Marta Paes Moreira < > > > > > > > ma...@ververica.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Yuan! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for starting this discussion! It would be really good > to > > > > make > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > resources more prominent in the Flink website somehow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can find an example close to the idea you're bringing up > in > > > > [1]. > > > > > My > > > > > > > > concern is that placing all resources in a page can be hard > to > > > > > maintain > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > a bit overwhelming. For users, it also ends up being hard to > > > > pinpoint > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > they are looking for if there is too much material. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rather than trying to maintain such a page, I think it could > be > > > > > > valuable > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > rethink the "Use Cases" section of the website and > incorporate > > > some > > > > > > > > relevant materials in association with the right context > (e.g. > > > > > > industry, > > > > > > > > use case), then point users to a different place where they > can > > > > find > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > (e.g. the Flink Forward playlist/Slideshare or other > dedicated > > > > Flink > > > > > > > > channel). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For blogposts, what we usually do is reach out to the authors > > of > > > > > > > > blogposts that are relevant to the community, but posted > > > elsewhere, > > > > > and > > > > > > > ask > > > > > > > > to submit them to the Flink blog as well. Could this also be > an > > > > > option > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the Chinese version of the blog? As far as I see, for now > it's > > > > just a > > > > > > > > mirror of the English blog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Various+Presentations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:11 AM Yuan Mei < > > yuanmei.w...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking for a home to put and organize materials > (mostly > > > in > > > > > > > Chinese) > > > > > > > > > altogether for easier reference or search in the future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those materials mainly include: > > > > > > > > > - video records for live broadcasting of Flink related > > content. > > > > > For > > > > > > > > > example, the set of selected Flink Forward talks > > reinterpreted > > > > and > > > > > > > > > broadcasted in Chinese. > > > > > > > > > - regular meet up topics, minutes, and PPTs. Meet-ups are > > held > > > > > twice > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > month on average. > > > > > > > > > - write-ups/blogs to share user experiences e.t.c. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, those materials are published through the > official > > > > Flink > > > > > > > > WeChat > > > > > > > > > account. The WeChat public account is a good way to > “publish” > > > > > > > > information, > > > > > > > > > but very difficult to search or organize afterwards. > > > Personally, > > > > I > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > those materials are particularly helpful to > users/developers > > > not > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > familiar with Flink, me, as an example. Hence finding a > place > > > > > > > > easy-to-find > > > > > > > > > such materials is very important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are several options we can adopt, but specifically, > > these > > > > > > > materials > > > > > > > > > are non-commercial stuff and purely for promoting the Flink > > > > > > community, > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > better not be tagged with any commercial trademarks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering how the English communities organize such > > > > > materials? > > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > simply put them under https://flink.apache.org/ as a > > > > subcategory? > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > https://flink.apache.org/cn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks ahead! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yuan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
