Hi David,

I am happy to get the repo created for you.

If we go with the documentation (vs flink.apache.org) do you think we
should remove any of the existing content? There is already a getting
started section with quickstarts and walkthroughs and a concepts section.
In particular, the concepts section today is not complete and almost every
page on master contains multiple TODOs. I don't believe anyone is working
on these.  What do you think about replacing the current concepts section
with the training material? I just re-examined the training site and I
believe it covers the same material as concepts but better. Of course, we
would salvage anything worth keeping, like the glossary.

Seth

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:02 PM David Anderson <da...@ververica.com> wrote:

> Thank you all for the very positive response to our proposal to contribute
> the training materials that have been at training.ververica.com to the
> Apache Flink project. Now I’d like to begin the more detailed discussion of
> how to go about this.
>
> In that earlier thread I mentioned that we were thinking of merging the
> markdown-based web pages into flink.apache.org, and to add the exercises
> to
> flink-playgrounds. This was based on thinking that it would be something of
> a maintenance headache to add the website content into the docs, where it
> would have to be versioned.
>
> Since then, a better approach has been suggested:
>
> We already have quite a bit of “getting started” material in the docs: Code
> Walkthroughs, Docker Playgrounds, Tutorials, and Examples. Having a second
> location (namely flink.apache.org) where this kind of content could be
> found doesn’t seem ideal. So let’s go ahead and add the expository content
> from the training materials to the documentation, with pointers into the
> rest of the docs (which are already present in the training), and with
> pointers to the exercises (rather than including the exercise descriptions
> in the docs). This will keep the content that will need more frequent
> revision out of the documentation.
>
> Then let’s create a new repo -- named flink-training -- that contains the
> exercises, the solutions, and the tests that go with them, PLUS all of the
> material that describes how to get setup to do the exercises, the
> explanations for each exercise, and accompanying discussion material that
> should be read after doing each exercise. Note that the exercise solutions
> already have tests, and Travis is already being used for CI on the existing
> project, so CI shouldn’t be an issue.
>
> Action Item: would a committer or PMC member kindly volunteer to help with
> creating this new flink-training repo?
>
> With the content refactored in this way, I believe ongoing maintenance
> won’t be much trouble. With each new Flink release I’ve been updating the
> exercises to build against the latest release, and to avoid any newly
> deprecated parts of the API. But since these exercises are focused on the
> most basic parts of the API, that hasn’t been difficult. As for content
> from the training website that would move into the docs, this content is
> much more stable, and has only needed a gentle revision every year or two.
>
> Regards,
> David
>

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