Hi All,

I would like to bring back this discussion which I saw multiple times in
previous ML threads [1], but there seem to have no solution if
checkpointing is disabled.

All of these ML reported exceptions have one common pattern:

> *INFO* org.apache.kafka.clients.consumer.internals.AbstractCoordinator  -
> Marking the coordinator kafka[xxx]:9092 (id: ??? rack: ???) dead for
> group consumergroup[xxx]
> *WARN* org.apache.kafka.clients.consumer.internals.ConsumerCoordinator  
> -Auto-commit
> of offsets {topic[xxx]=OffsetAndMetadata{offset=???,metadata=???''}}
> failed for group consumergroup[xxx]: Offset commit failed with a retriable
> exception. You should retry committing offsets. The underlying error was:
> The request timed out.

In most of the cases enabling *OffsetCommitMode.ON_CHECKPOINTS* fixes the
issue - Flink Kafka consumer will explicitly commit offset when
checkpointing and that goes down completely different code path comparing
with enabling Kafka consumer option *enable.auto.commit* and let Kafka
consumer handles it.

That brings me to the question:
- Is this feature (disabling checkpoint and restarting job from Kafka
committed GROUP_OFFSET) not supported?
- How does Flink-Kafka actually handles auto-commit to coordinator given
the fact that Flink ignores the coordinator assignments and uses
self-assigning partitions instead?


A bit of our observation:
We had conducted some experiments when option *enable.auto.commit* is set
to true, with Kafka 011 on both Flink 1.4 and 1.6, and observed that the
behavior is extremely weird after the above warning were seen:
- the task manager metrics
**.Source.KafkaConsumer.current-offsets.topic-[xxx]-partition-[yyy]* is
moving forward, tracking the latest Kafka broker offset - indicating that
the message consumption thread is executing without any issue.
- the task manager metrics
**.Source.KafkaConsumer.committed-offsets.topic-[xxx]-partition-[yyy]* is
stuck indefinitely - indicating that it has stopped talking to the
coordinator.

We would try to experiment this with Flink 1.10 later, but has anyone
experiencing similar issues with later Flink releases as well?

Thanks,
Rong

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[1]
http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Kafka-offset-auto-commit-stops-after-timeout-td18696.html
http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Flink-kafka-consumer-stopped-committing-offsets-td20624.html
http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Odd-job-failure-td19845.html
http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Error-during-Kafka-connection-td14822.html
http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Logs-show-Marking-the-coordinator-2147483637-dead-in-Flink-Kafka-conn-td7396.html
http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Checkpoint-takes-long-with-FlinkKafkaConsumer-td7561.html

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