Hi Dawid,

Thanks for your reply. I'm also in favor of "col" as a column expression in the 
Python Table API. Regarding to use "$" in the Java/Scala Table API, I'm fine 
with it. So +1 from my side.

Thanks,
Dian

> 在 2020年2月11日,下午9:48,Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org> 写道:
> 
> +1
> 
> Best,
> Aljoscha
> 
> On 11.02.20 11:17, Jingsong Li wrote:
>> Thanks Dawid for your explanation,
>> +1 for vote.
>> So I am big +1 to accepting java.lang.Object in the Java DSL, without
>> scala implicit conversion, a lot of "lit" look unfriendly to users.
>> Best,
>> Jingsong Lee
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 6:07 PM Dawid Wysakowicz <dwysakow...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> To answer some of the questions:
>>> 
>>> @Jingsong We use Objects in the java API to make it possible to use raw
>>> Objects without the need to wrap them in literals. If an expression is
>>> passed it is used as is. If anything else is used, it is assumed to be
>>> an literal and is wrapped into a literal. This way we can e.g. write
>>> $("f0").plus(1).
>>> 
>>> @Jark I think it makes sense to shorten them, I will do it I hope people
>>> that already voted don't mind.
>>> 
>>> @Dian That's a valid concern. I would not discard the '$' as a column
>>> expression for java and scala. I think once we introduce the expression
>>> DSL for python we can add another alias to java/scala. Personally I'd be
>>> in favor of col.
>>> 
>>> On 11/02/2020 10:41, Dian Fu wrote:
>>>> Hi Dawid,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for driving this feature. The design looks very well for me
>>> overall.
>>>> 
>>>> I have only one concern: $ is not allowed to be used in the identifier
>>> of Python and so we have to come out with another symbol when aligning this
>>> feature in the Python Table API. I noticed that there are also other
>>> options proposed in the discussion thread, e.g. ref, col, etc. I think it
>>> would be great if the proposed symbol could be supported in both the
>>> Java/Scala and Python Table API. What's your thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dian
>>>> 
>>>>> 在 2020年2月11日,上午11:13,Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> 写道:
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 for this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have some minor comments:
>>>>> - I'm +1 to use $ in both Java and Scala API.
>>>>> - I'm +1 to use lit(), Spark also provides lit() function to create a
>>>>> literal value.
>>>>> - Is it possible to have `isGreater` instead of `isGreaterThan` and
>>>>> `isGreaterOrEqual` instead of `isGreaterThanOrEqualTo` in
>>> BaseExpressions?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Jark
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 10:21, Jingsong Li <jingsongl...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Dawid,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for driving.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - adding $ in scala api looks good to me.
>>>>>> - Just a question, what should be expected to java.lang.Object? literal
>>>>>> object or expression? So the Object is the grammatical sugar of
>>> literal?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Jingsong Lee
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 9:40 PM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 for this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It will also help in making a TableEnvironment.fromElements() possible
>>>>>>> and reduces technical debt. One entry point of TypeInformation less in
>>>>>>> the API.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Timo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10.02.20 08:31, Dawid Wysakowicz wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wanted to resurrect the thread about introducing a Java Expression
>>>>>>>> DSL. Please see the updated flip page[1]. Most of the flip was
>>>>>> concluded
>>>>>>>> in previous discussion thread. The major changes since then are:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> * accepting java.lang.Object in the Java DSL
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> * adding $ interpolation for a column in the Scala DSL
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think it's important to move those changes forward as it makes it
>>>>>>>> easier to transition to the new type system (Java parser supports
>>> only
>>>>>>>> the old type system stack for now) that we are working on for the
>>> past
>>>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Because the previous discussion thread was rather conclusive I want
>>> to
>>>>>>>> start already with a vote. If you think we need another round of
>>>>>>>> discussion, feel free to say so.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The vote will last for at least 72 hours, following the consensus
>>>>>> voting
>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> FLIP wiki:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-55%3A+Introduction+of+a+Table+API+Java+Expression+DSL
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Discussion thread:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/eb5e7b0579e5f1da1e9bf1ab4e4b86dba737946f0261d94d8c30521e@%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best, Jingsong Lee
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

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