+1 to move to a future section. By deleting it I mean remove from
the content describing the current processing procedure.

Best,
Kurt


On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 5:01 PM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:

> Having an MVP and a limited scope sounds good to me. But I would not
> remove the STORED keyword entirely from the document.
>
> It shows that we have a long-term vision. Instead of deleting this
> content, I would move it to a Outlook/Future Work section.
>
> Regards,
> Timo
>
>
> On 24.10.19 10:55, Jark Wu wrote:
> > +1 to remove “STORED” related content. We can add them when user
> requires.
> > Others looks good to me in general.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jark
> >
> >
> >> 在 2019年10月24日,14:58,Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> 写道:
> >>
> >> Hi Danny,
> >>
> >> Thanks for preparing this design document. IMO It's a very useful
> >> feature, especially combined with time attribute support to specify
> >> watermark in DDL.
> >>
> >> The design doc looks quite good, but I would suggest to reduce the
> >> scope of the first version. Like we don't have to support "STORED"
> >> in the first MVP version, and you can also delete related content in
> >> document to make it more clean and easier to understand.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Kurt
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:18 PM Qi Luo <luoqi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Fantastic! We're also very interested in this feature.
> >>>
> >>> +Boxiu
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:31 AM Danny Chan <yuzhao....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In umbrella task FLINK-10232 we have introduced CREATE TABLE grammar
> in
> >>>> our new module flink-sql-parser. And we proposed to use computed
> column
> >>> to
> >>>> describe the time attribute of process time in the design doc FLINK
> SQL
> >>>> DDL, so user may create a table with process time attribute as
> follows:
> >>>> create table T1(
> >>>>   a int,
> >>>>   b bigint,
> >>>>   c varchar,
> >>>>   d as PROCTIME,
> >>>> ) with (
> >>>>   'k1' = 'v1',
> >>>>   'k2' = 'v2'
> >>>> );
> >>>>
> >>>> The column d would be a process time attribute for table T1.
> >>>>
> >>>> Besides that, computed  columns have several other use cases, such as
> >>>> these [2]:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> • Virtual generated columns can be used as a way to simplify and unify
> >>>> queries. A complicated condition can be defined as a generated column
> and
> >>>> referred to from multiple queries on the table to ensure that all of
> them
> >>>> use exactly the same condition.
> >>>> • Stored generated columns can be used as a materialized cache for
> >>>> complicated conditions that are costly to calculate on the fly.
> >>>> • Generated columns can simulate functional indexes: Use a generated
> >>>> column to define a functional expression and index it. This can be
> useful
> >>>> for working with columns of types that cannot be indexed directly,
> such
> >>> as
> >>>> JSON columns.
> >>>> • For stored generated columns, the disadvantage of this approach is
> that
> >>>> values are stored twice; once as the value of the generated column and
> >>> once
> >>>> in the index.
> >>>> • If a generated column is indexed, the optimizer recognizes query
> >>>> expressions that match the column definition and uses indexes from the
> >>>> column as appropriate during query execution(Not supported yet).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Computed columns are introduced in SQL-SERVER-2016 [1], MYSQL-5.6 [2]
> and
> >>>> ORACLE-11g [3].
> >>>>
> >>>> This is the design doc:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/110TseRtTCphxETPY7uhiHpu-dph3NEesh3mYKtJ7QOY/edit?usp=sharing
> >>>>
> >>>> Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/relational-databases/tables/specify-computed-columns-in-a-table?view=sql-server-2016
> >>>> [2]
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/create-table-generated-columns.html
> >>>> [3] https://oracle-base.com/articles/11g/virtual-columns-11gr1
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Danny Chan
> >>>>
> >>>
>
>

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