Hi all,

This is an interesting problem and sometimes it bothers me too.
In general, I agree that it should deserve a voting process.
But I also share the same concern with Zili that the FLIP number will be
flooded.

So, I think the compromise way is such a small new interface does not need
a FLIP, but need a vote in the ML for the JIRA issue.
For example, "[VOTE][FLINK-14317] New options for hadoop history server",
and a shorter voting period (48h?).

Best,
Jark

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 20:31, Zili Chen <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Aljoscha & Dawid & Kostas,
>
> I agree that changes on config option keys deserve a FLIP and it is
> reasonable
> we commit the changes with a standard FLIP process so that ensure the
> change
> given proper visibility.
>
> My concern is about naming. Given FLIP-73 as an example, if FLIPs
> associated to
> FLIP-73(actually can be regarded as sub-FLIP of it) grows FLIP numbers and
> appears
> like FLIP-80 FLIP-85 FLIP-91 and so on, then we possibly run into a state
> flooded by
> quite a few config option only FLIP. Maybe it makes sense to number these
> FLIP as
> FLIP-73.1 FLIP-73.2, which shows the association and doesn't pollute other
> FLIPs.
>
> Remind the general thoughts, IMO changes on config option keys deserve a
> standard
> FLIP process, e.g. FLIP-61.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Kostas Kloudas <kklou...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月15日周二 下午8:20写道:
>
> > Hi Aljoscha,
> >
> > Given that config option keys are user-facing and any change there is
> > breaking, I think there should be a discussion about them and a FLIP,
> > where people have to actually vote for it seems to be the right place.
> > I understand that this is tedious (and actually I will also have to
> > open some FLIPs as part of FLIP-73), but this contributes to the
> > uniformity of our parameters and also giving them some more
> > visibility.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kostas
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 2:05 PM Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > The title says it all, do you think we need to cover all config options
> > that we introduce/change by FLIPs? I was thinking about this because of
> the
> > FLIP-73 work, which will introduce some new config options and also
> because
> > I just spotted a PR [1] that introduces some config options.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Aljoscha
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/9836
> >
>

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