Hi Jingsong,

Although it would be nice if the accumulators in GlobalAggregateManager is
fault-tolerant, we could still take advantage of managed state to guarantee
the semantic and use the accumulators to implement distributed barrier or
lock to solve the distributed access problem.

Best,
Shimin

JingsongLee <lzljs3620...@aliyun.com.invalid> 于2019年9月9日周一 下午1:33写道:

> Thanks jark and dian:
> 1.jark's approach: do the work in task-0. Simple way.
> 2.dian's approach: use StreamingRuntimeContext#getGlobalAggregateManager
> Can do more operation. But these accumulators are not fault-tolerant?
>
> Best,
> Jingsong Lee
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> From:shimin yang <ysmcl...@gmail.com>
> Send Time:2019年9月6日(星期五) 15:21
> To:dev <dev@flink.apache.org>
> Subject:Re: [DISCUSS] Support notifyOnMaster for notifyCheckpointComplete
>
> Hi Fu,
>
> That'll be nice.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
> Shimin
>
> Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com> 于2019年9月6日周五 下午3:17写道:
>
> > Hi Shimin,
> >
> > It can be guaranteed to be an atomic operation. This is ensured by the
> RPC
> > framework. You could take a look at RpcEndpoint for more details.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dian
> >
> > > 在 2019年9月6日,下午2:35,shimin yang <ysmcl...@gmail.com> 写道:
> > >
> > > Hi Fu,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the remind. I think it would work in my case as long as
> > it's
> > > an atomic operation.
> > >
> > > Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com> 于2019年9月6日周五 下午2:22写道:
> > >
> > >> Hi Jingsong,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for bring up this discussion. You can try to look at the
> > >> GlobalAggregateManager to see if it can meet your requirements. It can
> > be
> > >> got via StreamingRuntimeContext#getGlobalAggregateManager().
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Dian
> > >>
> > >>> 在 2019年9月6日,下午1:39,shimin yang <ysmcl...@gmail.com> 写道:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Jingsong,
> > >>>
> > >>> Big fan of this idea. We faced the same problem and resolved by
> adding
> > a
> > >>> distributed lock. It would be nice to have this feature in JobMaster,
> > >> which
> > >>> can replace the lock.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> Shimin
> > >>>
> > >>> JingsongLee <lzljs3620...@aliyun.com.invalid> 于2019年9月6日周五
> 下午12:20写道:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi devs:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I try to implement streaming file sink for table[1] like
> > >> StreamingFileSink.
> > >>>> If the underlying is a HiveFormat, or a format that updates
> visibility
> > >>>> through a metaStore, I have to update the metaStore in the
> > >>>> notifyCheckpointComplete, but this operation occurs on the task
> side,
> > >>>> which will lead to distributed access to the metaStore, which will
> > >>>> lead to bottleneck.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So I'm curious if we can support notifyOnMaster for
> > >>>> notifyCheckpointComplete like FinalizeOnMaster.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What do you think?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1]
> > >>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15R3vZ1R_pAHcvJkRx_CWleXgl08WL3k_ZpnWSdzP7GY/edit?usp=sharing
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best,
> > >>>> Jingsong Lee
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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