Hi Robert,

I'd very much love to, but because I run my pipeline with Beam, I'm afraid I will have to wait a little longer, before Beam has runner for 1.9 [1]. I'm pretty sure that the watermarks disappeared with overall parallelism (over all operators) something above 2000. There was quite a lot of operators (shuffling), so the individual parallelism of each operator was about 200. The pipeline was spread over 50 taskmanager (each having 4 slots).

Jan

[1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/9296/

On 8/26/19 10:23 AM, Robert Metzger wrote:
Jan, will you be able to test this issue on the now-released Flink 1.9 with the new UI?

What parallelism is needed to reproduce the issue?


On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:59 PM Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org <mailto:ches...@apache.org>> wrote:

    I remember an issue regarding the watermark fetch request from the
    WebUI
    exceeding some HTTP size limit, since it tries to fetch all
    watermarks
    at once, and the format of this request isn't exactly efficient.

    Querying metrics for individual operators still works since the
    request
    is small enough.

    Not sure whether we ever fixed that.

    On 15/08/2019 12:01, Jan Lukavský wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > Thomas, thanks for confirming this. I have noticed, that in 1.9 the
    > WebUI has been reworked a lot, does anyone know if this is still an
    > issue? I currently cannot easily try 1.9, so I cannot confirm or
    > disprove that.
    >
    > Jan
    >
    > On 8/14/19 6:25 PM, Thomas Weise wrote:
    >> I have also noticed this issue (Flink 1.5, Flink 1.8), and it
    appears
    >> with
    >> higher parallelism.
    >>
    >> This can be confusing to the user when watermarks actually work
    and
    >> can be
    >> observed using the metrics.
    >>
    >> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 7:36 AM Jan Lukavský <je...@seznam.cz
    <mailto:je...@seznam.cz>> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> is it possible, that watermarks are sometimes not propagated
    to WebUI,
    >>> although they are internally moving as normal? I see in WebUI
    every
    >>> operator showing "No Watermark", but outputs seem to be
    propagated to
    >>> sink (and there are watermark sensitive operations involved - e.g.
    >>> reductions on fixed windows without early emitting). More
    strangely,
    >>> this happens when I increase parallelism above some threshold.
    If I use
    >>> parallelism of N, watermarks are shown, when I increase it
    above some
    >>> number (seems not to be exactly deterministic), watermarks
    seems to
    >>> disappear.
    >>>
    >>> I'm using Flink 1.8.1.
    >>>
    >>> Did anyone experience something like this before?
    >>>
    >>> Jan
    >>>
    >>>
    >

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