Hi Konstantin,

Yes you are right that `cancel` falls under the "abrupt" termination of a
job.
I will update the FLIP accordingly.

Cheers,
Kostas

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 11:38 AM Konstantin Knauf <konstan...@ververica.com>
wrote:

> Hi Klou,
>
> +1 for this proposal. I am missing any mention of "cancel" in the design
> document though. In my understanding we are not planning to deprecate
> "cancel" completely (just cancel-with-savepoint, which is superseded by
> "stop"). In any case we should consider it in the design document. It seems
> to me that "cancel" should be consider an ungraceful shutdown, so that the
> Job could be restarted from last (retained) checkpoint (as right now).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Konstantin
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 3:21 PM Kostas Kloudas <kklou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In many cases, UDFs (User Defined Functions) need to be able to perform
> > application-specific actions when they stop in an orderly manner.
> > Currently, Flink's UDFs, and more specifically the RichFunction which
> > exposes lifecycle-related hooks, only have a close() method which is
> called
> > in any case of job termination. This includes any form of orderly
> > termination (STOP or End-Of-Stream) and termination due to an error.
> >
> >
> > The FLIP in [1] and the design document in [2] propose the addition of an
> > interface that will allow UDFs that implement it to perform application
> > specific logic in the case of graceful termination. These cases include
> > DRAIN and SUSPEND for streaming jobs (see FLIP-34), but also reaching the
> > End-Of-Stream for jobs with finite sources.
> >
> > Let's have a lively discussion to solve this issue that has been around
> for
> > quite some time.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kostas
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-46%3A+Graceful+Shutdown+Handling+by+UDFs
> >
> > [2]
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SXfhmeiJfWqi2ITYgCgAoSDUv5PNq1T8Zu01nR5Ebog/edit?usp=sharing
> >
>
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