Thanks for the effort, Yu, I've shared the link on the jira side[1] for
those who may be interested in this topic.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-12619
Best,
Congxian


Yu Li <car...@gmail.com> 于2019年7月3日周三 下午10:56写道:

> Hi Flink devs,
>
> Through recent discussion on job stop processing, we found its semantic is
> incomplete, mainly reflected in two aspects:
>
> 1. In our released versions [1], the stop process is as follows:
>
>    - A “stop” call is a graceful way of stopping a running streaming job.
>    When the user requests to stop a job, all sources will receive a stop()
>    method call. The job will keep running until all sources properly shut
>    down. This allows the job to finish processing all inflight data.
>
>     However, for stateful operators with retained checkpointing, the stop
> call won’t take any checkpoint, thus when resuming the job it needs to
> recover from the latest checkpoint with source rewinding, which causes the
> wait for processing all inflight data meaningless (all need to be processed
> again).
>
> 2. In the latest master branch after FLIP-34 [2], job stop will always be
> accompanied by a savepoint, which has below problems:
>
>    - It's an unexpected behavior change from user perspective, that old
>    stop command will fail on jobs w/o savepoint configuration.
>    - It slows down the job stop procedure and might block launching new
>    jobs when resource is contended.
>
> To resolve the above issues and reinforce job stop semantic, we have
> opened FLIP-45. In the document we carefully compared the Flink concepts
> with database, clarified what's missing in Flink job stop process, and
> proposed changes to complete it.
>
> Since this involves conception level clarification and user-facing
> changes, we would like to collect feedback on the proposal before
> continuing efforts.
>
> This is the FLIP:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-45%3A+Reinforce+Job+Stop+Semantic
>
> [1]
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.8/ops/cli.html
> [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=103090212
>
> Best Regards,
> Yu
>

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