Hi Stephan,

This proposal is an extension of @shuyi's initial improvement specifically
to tackle Kerberos related issues.
However in order for this extension to work, some of the original
components proposed are required (such as the service provider pattern for
security factories).

Thanks,
Rong

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> A quick question: Is this a special case of the security improvements
> proposed in this thread [1], or a separate proposal all together?
>
> Stephan
>
> [1]
>
> http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Flink-security-improvements-td21068.html
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 8:06 PM Rong Rong <walter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Shuyi,
> >
> > Yes. I think the impersonation is a very much valid question! This can
> > actually be considered as 2 questions as I stated in the doc.
> > 1. In the doc I stated that impersonation should be implemented on the
> > user-side code and should only invoke the cluster client as the actual
> user
> > joe'.
> > 2. However, since currently the cluster client assumes no impersonation
> at
> > all, many of the code assumes that a fully authorized client can be
> > instantiated with the same authority that the actual Flink cluster has.
> > When impersonation is enabled, this might not be the case. For example,
> if
> > impersonation is in place, most likely the cluster client running on
> joe's
> > behalf will not, and should not have access to keytab file of 'joe'.
> > Instead, a delegation token is used. Thus the second part of the doc is
> > trying to address this issue.
> >
> > --
> > Rong
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:41 PM Shuyi Chen <suez1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rong, thanks a lot for the proposal. Currently, Flink assume the
> > keytab
> > > is located in a remote DFS. Pre-installing Keytabs statically in YARN
> > node
> > > local filesystem is a common approach, so I think we should support
> this
> > > mode in Flink natively. As an optimazation to reduce the KDC access
> > > frequency, we should also support method 3 (the DT approach) as
> discussed
> > > in [1]. A question is that why do we need to implement impersonation in
> > > Flink? I assume the superuser can do the impersonation for 'joe' and
> > 'joe'
> > > can then invoke Flink client to deploy the job. Thanks a lot.
> > >
> > > Shuyi
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10V7LiNlUJKeKZ58mkR7oVv1t6BrC6TZi3FGf2Dm6-i8/edit
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 5:49 PM Rong Rong <walter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > We have been experimenting integration of Kerberos with Flink in our
> > Corp
> > > > environment and found out some limitations on the current
> > Flink-Kerberos
> > > > security mechanism running with Apache YARN.
> > > >
> > > > Based on the Hadoop Kerberos security guide [1]. Apparently there are
> > > only
> > > > a subset of the suggested long-running service security mechanism is
> > > > supported in Flink. Furthermore, the current model does not work well
> > > with
> > > > superuser impersonating actual users [2] for deployment purposes,
> which
> > > is
> > > > a widely adopted way to launch application in corp environments.
> > > >
> > > > We would like to propose an improvement [3] to introduce the other
> > > comment
> > > > methods [1] for securing long-running application on YARN and enable
> > > > impersonation mode. Any comments and suggestions are highly
> > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks,
> > > > Rong
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/hadoop-yarn/hadoop-yarn-site/YarnApplicationSecurity.html#Securing_Long-lived_YARN_Services
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/hadoop-project-dist/hadoop-common/Superusers.html
> > > > [3]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rBLCpyQKg6Ld2P0DEgv4VIOMTwv4sitd7h7P5r202IE/edit?usp=sharing
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your
> future."
> > >
> >
>

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