@Fabian: Thank you for your suggestions. Multiple approvals in one comment
are already possible.
I will see if I can easily add multiple approvals in one line as well.
I will also address 2) and 3).

Regarding usage of the bot: Anyone can use it! It is up to the committer
who's merging in the end whether they are happy with the approver.
One of the feature ideas I have is to indicate whether somebody is PMC or
committer.

I'm against enforcing the order of approvals for now. I fear that this will
make the tool too restrictive. I like Ufuk's idea of putting a note into
the tracking comment for now.
Once it's active and we are using it day to day, we'll probably learn what
features we need the most.


@Ufuk: I think we should put it into a Apache repo at some point. But I'm
not sure if it's worth going through the effort of setting up a new repo
now, given that the bot is not even active yet, and we are not sure if it's
going to be useful.
Once it is active for a month or two, I will move it.

Regarding the bots in general: I don't see a problem with having multiple
bots in place, as long as they get along with each other well.
We should try not to reinvent the wheel, if there's already a good bot
implementation, I don't see a reason to not use it.
The problem in our case is that we have limited access to our GitHub page,
and merging can not happen through the GitHub user interface -- so I guess
many "off the shelf" bots will not work in our environment.
I'm thinking already about approaches how to automatically merge pull
requests with the bot. But this will be a separate mailing list thread :)

Thanks for the feedback!




On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 5:20 PM Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification. I agree that it only makes sense to
> check the points in order. +1 to add this if we can think of a nice
> way to do it. I'm not sure how we would enforce the order with the bot
> since there is only indirect feedback to a bot command. The only thing
> I can think of at the moment is to add a note to a check in case
> earlier steps where not executed. Just ignoring a bot command because
> other commands have not been executed before feels not helpful to me
> (since we can't prevent reviewers to jump to later steps if they wish
> to do so).
>
> I'd rather add a bold note to the bot template that makes clear that
> all points should be followed in order to avoid potentially redundant
> work.
>
> – Ufuk
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 5:01 PM Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The points in the review template are in the order in which they should
> be
> > checked, i.e., first checking the description, then consensus and finally
> > checking the code.
> > Currently, it is possible to tick off the code box before checking the
> > description.
> > One motivation for the process was to do the steps in exactly the
> proposed
> > order for example to to avoid detailed code reviews before there was
> > consensus whether the contribution was welcome or not.
> >
> > Am Mo., 28. Jan. 2019 um 16:54 Uhr schrieb Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > I played around with the bot and it works pretty well. :-) @Robert:
> > > Are there any plans to contribute the code for the bot to Apache
> > > (potentially in another repository)?
> > >
> > > I like Fabians suggestions. Regarding the questions:
> > > 1) I would make that dependent on whether you expected the review
> > > guideline to only apply to committers or also regular contributors.
> > > Since the bot is not merging PRs, I don't see a down side in having it
> > > open for all contributors (except potential noise).
> > > 2) What do you mean with "order of approvals"?
> > >
> > > Since there is another lively discussion going on about a bot for
> > > stale PRs, I'm wondering what the future plans for @flinkbot are. Do
> > > we want to have multiple bots for the project? Or do you plan to
> > > support staleness checks in the future? What about merging of PRs?
> > >
> > > – Ufuk
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:23 PM Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Robert,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for working on the bot!
> > > > I have a few suggestions / questions:
> > > >
> > > > Suggestions:
> > > > 1) It would be great to approve multiple boxes in one comment.
> Either as
> > > > > @flinkbot approve contribution consensus
> > > > or by
> > > > > @flinkbot approve contribution
> > > > > @flinkbot approve consensus
> > > >
> > > > 2) Extend the last line of the description by adding something like
> "See
> > > > Pull Request Review Guide for how to use the Flink bot."?
> > > > 3) Rephrase the first line to include "[description]" instead of
> > > > "[contribution]", as it is about approving the description
> > > >
> > > > Questions:
> > > > 1) Can anybody use the bot or just committers?
> > > > 2) Does it make sense to enforce the order in which approvals are
> given?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Fabian
> > > >
> > > > Am Mi., 23. Jan. 2019 um 13:51 Uhr schrieb Robert Metzger <
> > > > rmetz...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > I have the bot now running in
> > > https://github.com/flinkbot/test-repo/pulls
> > > > > Feel free to play with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 10:25 AM Robert Metzger <
> rmetz...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, cool! I'll let you know when the bot is ready in a test
> repo.
> > > > > > While you (and others) are testing it, I'll open a PR for the
> docs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 10:15 AM Fabian Hueske <
> fhue...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Oh, that's great news!
> > > > > >> In that case we can just close the PR and start with the bot
> right
> > > away.
> > > > > >> I think it would be good to extend the PR Review guide [1] with
> a
> > > > > section
> > > > > >> about the bot and how to use it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Fabian
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [1] https://flink.apache.org/reviewing-prs.html
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Am Mi., 23. Jan. 2019 um 10:03 Uhr schrieb Robert Metzger <
> > > > > >> rmetz...@apache.org>:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Hey,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > as I've mentioned already in the pull request, I have started
> > > > > >> implementing
> > > > > >> > a little bot for GitHub that tracks the checklist [1]
> > > > > >> > The bot is monitoring incoming pull requests. It creates a
> comment
> > > > > with
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > checklist.
> > > > > >> > Reviewers can write a message to the bot (such as "@flinkbot
> > > approve
> > > > > >> > contribution"), then the bot will update the checklist
> comment.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > As an upcoming feature, I also plan to add a label to the pull
> > > request
> > > > > >> when
> > > > > >> > all the checklist conditions have been met.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I hope to finish the bot today. After some initial testing,
> we can
> > > > > >> deploy
> > > > > >> > it with Flink (if there are no objections by the community).
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > [1] https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 3:48 PM Fabian Hueske <
> fhue...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > A few months ago the community discussed and agreed to
> improve
> > > the
> > > > > PR
> > > > > >> > > review process [1-4].
> > > > > >> > > The idea is to follow a checklist to avoid in-depth reviews
> on
> > > > > >> > > contributions that might not be accepted for other reasons.
> > > Thereby,
> > > > > >> > > reviewers and contributors do not spend their time on PRs
> that
> > > will
> > > > > >> not
> > > > > >> > be
> > > > > >> > > merged.
> > > > > >> > > The checklist consists of five points:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > 1. The contribution is well-described.
> > > > > >> > > 2. There is consensus that the contribution should go into
> to
> > > Flink.
> > > > > >> > > 3. [Does not need specific attention | Needs specific
> attention
> > > for
> > > > > X
> > > > > >> |
> > > > > >> > Has
> > > > > >> > > attention for X by Y]
> > > > > >> > > 4. The architectural approach is sound.
> > > > > >> > > 5. Overall code quality is good.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Back then we added a review guide to the website [5] but did
> > > not put
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > new process in place yet. I would like to start this now.
> > > > > >> > > There is a PR [6] that adds the review checklist to the PR
> > > template.
> > > > > >> > > Committers who review add PR should follow the checklist and
> > > tick
> > > > > and
> > > > > >> > sign
> > > > > >> > > off the boxes by updating the PR description. For that
> > > committers
> > > > > >> need to
> > > > > >> > > be members of the ASF Github organization.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > If nobody has concerns, I'll merge the PR in a few days.
> > > > > >> > > Once the PR is merged, the reviews of all new PRs should
> follow
> > > the
> > > > > >> > > checklist.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Best,
> > > > > >> > > Fabian
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > [1]
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/dcbe377eb477b531f49c462e90d8b1e50e0ff33c6efd296081c6934d@%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
> > > > > >> > > [2]
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/172aa6d12ed442ea4da9ed2a72fe0894c9be7408fb2e1b7b50dfcb8c@%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
> > > > > >> > > [3]
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5e07c1be8078dd7b89d93c67b71defacff137f3df56ccf4adb04b4d7@%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
> > > > > >> > > [4]
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d7fd1fe45949f7c706142c62de85d246c7f6a1485a186fd3e9dced01@%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
> > > > > >> > > [5] https://flink.apache.org/reviewing-prs.html
> > > > > >> > > [6] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/6873
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>

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