I have some ideas about detecting the backpressure (the blocking
operators) by checkpoint barrier .
I have some flink-jobs with checkpoint , but their checkpoints will take
a long time to be completed .
I need to find out the blocking operators , the same as the
backpressure detection .
In a checkpoint object , I can get a timestamp which means the
start-time , then I compute a metric in
org.apache.flink.streaming.runtime.tasks.StreamTask.executeCheckpointing() .
The metric is a delta time between checkpoint.timestamp to the time
when StreamTask.executeCheckpointing invoke
and I named it as checkpoint-delay-time .
It looks like the end-to-end-time metric in checkpoint but not include
async-handles ,
For example a list of tasks A(parallelism :2 ) ---> B(parallelism :3 )
---> C (parallelism : 1)
Checkpoint-delay-value-A : I get the max checkpoint-delay-time from
A(there are 2 instances )
Checkpoint-delay-value-B : I get the max checkpoint-delay-time from
B(there are 3 instances )
Checkpoint-delay-value-C : I get the max checkpoint-delay-time from
C(there is 1 instance)
Then I can get the other 3 delta time from checkpoint-delay-values
result-0-->A = Checkpoint-delay-value-A - 0
result-A-->B = Checkpoint-delay-value-B - Checkpoint-delay-value-A
result-B-->C = Checkpoint-delay-value-C - Checkpoint-delay-value-B
someone ( result-X-->Y) which is longer than 5s (maybe other
threshold) should be the black sheep .
在 2019/1/3 下午2:43, Yun Gao :
Hello liping,
Thank you for proposing to optimize the backpressure detection! From our
previous experience, we think the InputBufferPoolUsageGauge and
OutputBufferPoolUsageGauge may be useful for detecting backpressure: for a list of
tasks A ---> B ----> C, if we found that the OutputBufferPoolUsage of task A
and InputBufferPoolUsage of task B is 100%, but the OutputBufferPoolUsage of task B
is less than 100%, then it should be the task B that causes the backpressure.
However, currently we think that the InputBufferPoolUsage and
OutputBufferPoolUsage requires some modification to be more accurate:
1. When there are multiple inputs or outputs, the InputBufferPoolUsage and OutputBufferPoolUsage should show the maximum usage instead of the average usage [1].
2. Currently the sender side will report backlog right before
fulfilling the output Buffer. Together with the pre-allocate logic in the
receiver side, the InputBufferPoolUsage may be 100% even if the data have not
been received yet [2].
We may need to address these problems before adopting the
InputBufferPoolUsage and OutputBufferPoolUsage as the backpressure indicator.
Besides, another similar thought is that we may also add new
InputBufferUsage and OutputBufferUsage metrics to show (number of queued
buffers / number of all buffers) instead.
Best,
Yun Gao
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10981
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-11082
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From:裴立平 <peiliping...@gmail.com>
Send Time:2019 Jan. 3 (Thu.) 13:39
To:dev <dev@flink.apache.org>
Subject:[DISCUSS] Detection Flink Backpressure
Recently I want to optimize the way to find the positions where the
backpressures occured .
I read some blogs about flink-backpressure and have a rough idea of it .
The method which Flink adopted is thread-stack-sample , it's heavy and
no-lasting .
The positions where backpressures occured are very important to the
developers .
They should be treated as monitor-metrics .
Any other choice that we can take to detection the flink backpressures ?