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Sent from Samsung tablet. -------- Original message -------- From: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> Date: 01/09/2017 07:28 (GMT+00:00) To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Fork FlexJS from Apache Flex Hi folks, Here is the vote thread. Please vote on whether to submit the proposal below to the board. Please use +1 for yes, -1 for no, and if you want, any number in-between per [1]. Only PMC member votes will be used to determine the results, but we are more than happy to hear from non-PMC members as well. [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#expressing-votes-1-0-1-and-fr actions Thanks, -Alex -------- Proposal ----------- Apache FlexJS for Apache Top-Level Project Abstract Apache FlexJS is a new implementation of the principles of Apache Flex but designed for JavaScript runtimes instead of Adobe Flash/AIR runtimes. Apache FlexJS was created and released as part of the Apache Flex project and the UI framework is a full rewrite and does not leverage the code bases donated by Adobe. Only the FlexJS compiler source was donated by Adobe. Over time, the set of Apache Flex committers who are working on Apache Flex releases have become distinct from those working on FlexJS. Add to that the Adobe announcement of the end-of-life for Flash in the browser, it makes sense to separate FlexJS from Flex so that followers of one side or the other don't have to filter out emails, bugs, web pages, etc, that they don't need. The proposal is to form an Apache FlexJS top-level project instead of creating a new Incubator Podling. That is because all but one of the folks being proposed to the new Apache FlexJS PMC below have been on the Apache Flex PMC for months, if not years, and understand how to participate productively in an Apache project. Plus, Apache FlexJS has already been released by the top-level Apache Flex project. Overview of FlexJS Apache FlexJS is designed to improve developer productivity in creating applications for wherever Javascript runs, including browsers as well as Apache Cordova applications, Node, etc. FlexJS already has an ecosystem of folks creating IDEs for FlexJS, and some folks are at various points in the process of migrating existing Flex applications to FlexJS. Current Status Meritocracy Within Apache Flex, the FlexJS development has been conducted as a meritocracy. No existing FlexJS developers came with the compiler code base donated by Adobe nor were they on the initial committers list for Apache Flex other than Alex Harui. Everyone else has earned their way in by contributing and earning merit. Community Many FlexJS users are trying to migrate an existing Apache Flex app off of Adobe Flash. As their migration progresses they will become less and less interested in Apache Flex releases and activity. However, the Apache Flex JIRA project contains some 30,000 Flex issues migrated from Adobe's bug base, and the team page for Flex makes it hard to determine which committers are active on FlexJS, and it is frequently hard to determine if a user's question is about regular Flex or FlexJS. We are seeing an increase in user interest with the Flash end-of-life announcement and having separate mailing lists, web pages, and JIRA projects will help save everyone time and energy. Alignment Apache FlexJS is already being released by Apache. Known Risks Code Extraction The flex-asjs, flex-tours, flex-typedefs, and flex-falcon Git repos would be migrated to GitBox. Other Apache Flex repos would be treated as external dependencies. This includes flex-utilities and the Apache Flex Installer. Orphaned Projects Most FlexJS PMC members are planning to remain on the Apache Flex PMC to help out just-in-case, but are already mostly inactive on the Flex code bases. However, there are at least 3 Apache Flex PMC members who have not contributed at all to FlexJS and participate in regular Flex releases, so the expectation is that Apache Flex will remain a viable project for some time to come. Inexperience with Open Source All of the initial team has been contributing to Apache Flex for months if not years. Homogenous Developers No company employs more than two of the members of the initial team. Reliance on Salaried Developers Until about a year ago, only 2 of the proposed PMC members were paid to work on FlexJS. The rest contributed in their spare time. Two more are now paid to migrate an existing application and thus contribute to add missing features and fix bugs. By creating a separate project, we hope to attract more folks who may not want to be involved with the legacy Apache Flex code. Relationship with Existing Apache Projects Apache FlexJS might use some releases from Apache Flex for some features or for an Installer app. FlexJS can be used to create Apache Cordova applications and we hope to find time to make the Cordova community aware of this capability. The Apache FlexJS Compiler has dependencies on Apache Commons, and we use Apache Ant and Apache Maven for building the various release artifacts. Cryptography Apache FlexJS does not currently does not distribute cryptography code other than an MD5 hash algorithm. Required Resources Mailing Lists -private@ -dev@ -commits@ -users@ -issues@ Version Control We would like to use GitBox if it is practical to convert the current git repos listed above. We want to explore using GitHub's wiki and documentation tools. Issue Tracking If GitBox allows us to use GitHub issues, we will use that, otherwise, we will request a new JIRA project from Infra. Other Resources We would like to try using Git for our website version control and whatever the publishing process is. We will probably continue to run jobs on builds.a.o. Initial PMC Harbs Yishay Weiss Alex Harui Peter Ent Josh Tynjala Piotr Zarzycki Carlos Rovira Erik De Bruin Omprakash Muppirala Frédéric Thomas Olaf Krueger Michael Schmalle Dave Fisher Initial Committers Christofer Dutz Greg Dove Andy Dufilie Darrell Loverin We propose Harbs as initial PMC Chair and VP Apache FlexJS. Affiliations Alex Harui and Peter Ent are currently employees of Adobe Systems Inc. Nobody else works for a large corporation. ----------- End Proposal -----------