flexjs.apache.org would be great, but maybe even something like flexjs.com or apacheflexjs.com or something like that... would it be possible (although internaly it will be as well flex.apache.org/flexjs, but just a main domain pointing to a subdomain or page inside a subdomain that will give some relevance and entity...a huge point in marketing the technology)
2016-12-27 21:53 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com>: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Christofer Dutz < > christofer.d...@c-ware.de > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > First of all I would favor a FlexJS site written in FlexJS. I can > > definitely provide the parts we need to add in order to have this auto > > published, as I just recently fought this fight. Especially based on the > > MDL example (which looks amazing). > > > > I think in Apache all projects have their own sub-domain, but not more > > than one. So I think in our case we are stuck to “flex.apache.org” but > > could continue with an URL like http://flex.apache.org/flexjs > > Keeping things inside the “flex” domain sort of underlines that this is > > part of the flex project and not a separate flexjs project. > > > > > Good idea. I'm all for it. > > I think we can still ask for flexjs.apache.org even though FlexJS is part > of Apache Flex. Can someone with more knowledge please confirm? > > Thanks, > Om > > > > Chris > > > > > > Am 27.12.16, 11:28 schrieb "carlos.rov...@gmail.com im Auftrag von > Carlos > > Rovira" <carlos.rov...@gmail.com im Auftrag von > > carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>: > > > > Hi, > > > > I think FlexJS web is a must, something that points directly to > FlexJS > > and > > market all the thing (no mentions to old Flex SDK). > > And I think this should have its own domain and a great modern look > and > > feel with accurate marketing reading and images. > > > > As well we could have a section with the easy start examples Josh did > > in > > the wiki (maybe this time with runtime companions), an many other > > stuff. > > > > I think the right tool for this is a Wordpress website so we could > make > > things fast, easy and good looking, I can help with that in that > > format, in > > other systems I'm not fluent. > > > > my 2ctns > > > > Carlos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2016-12-26 21:55 GMT+01:00 Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@gmail.com>: > > > > > 1. I think FlexJS would benefit from its own dedicated page on the > > main > > > website that describes its benefits in a more polished, bite-sized > > form. > > > Basically, more of a marketing page that keeps the architecture > > discussion > > > limited to high-level bullet points. If someone really wants to > dive > > in to > > > the nitty gritty details, we have multiple pages in the wiki that > go > > more > > > in-depth on the architecture. > > > > > > 2. The Flex SDK Installer is still working well, in my opinion. > > We've been > > > able to successfully tweak the install scripts when we release new > > SDK > > > updates, as necessary, and there hasn't been a need to push updates > > to the > > > installer app. For instance, Adobe recently changed AIR SDK for Mac > > to be a > > > DMG file, and the upcoming Flex 4.16 will support this different > > format. > > > Older SDKs won't work with AIR 24 and newer, though, and if we > > wanted to > > > support that, we'd need to release small updates to each of them. > > > > > > The manual install instructions should still be accurate. Users > > simply need > > > to pass the installer.xml file to Ant (and, optionally, versions > for > > > Flash/AIR stuff) and the rest is automated. > > > > > > In both cases, the SDK will work in IDEs. Ultimately, the same > > install > > > script is run. A FlexJS project may require extra tweaks in certain > > IDEs > > > because they don't know about FlexJS and we're tricking them into > > thinking > > > this is the classic Flex SDK. > > > > > > 3. I think that Tour de Flex provides a ton of good examples for > > getting > > > started the Flex SDK. I see that it's under "About Flex" in the > main > > > website menus. It might be good if we could add it under > > "Documentation" > > > too. Tour de Flex is good as both an overview of everything that's > > > available, but also as a resource for experienced Flex developers > to > > review > > > during development. It might be smart to make the menu it say "Tour > > de Flex > > > Code Examples", "Tour de Flex Component Explorer", or something > > that's a > > > little more clear on what it actually is. It might even be smart to > > pull > > > out Tour de Flex into its own section on the main page as the user > > scrolls > > > down. > > > > > > On the wiki, I recently started creating some simple examples for > the > > > FlexJS Basic components: > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/ > > FlexJS+Basic+components > > > > > > This probably isn't super easy to find from the main website, > though. > > > > > > There has also been talk of a Tour de FlexJS on the mailing list. > > Something > > > like that would definitely be good! Maybe as a replacement for my > > simple > > > examples above, or a more in-depth kind of thing. > > > > > > - Josh > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Mark Kessler < > > > kesslerconsult...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I'd like to start a discussion aimed at prospective new > > > > developers. This is sort of an in-process review. The end state > > > > getting feedback on our current setup just to make sure we are > > making > > > > it easy for new folks. > > > > > > > > Let's setup the ground rules of working on constructive / > > > > positive. Giving feedback for issues found or ideas for growth > are > > > > great. Focus being on a new person blindly walking into Flex and > > > > attempting to get started from scratch. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are some starting points to get things moving (can add > > more). > > > > I consider this to be sort of a 1/2/3 in terms of steps to get > > > > started. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Presentation to new users. IE the flex website. It looks > > good, > > > > but I've been looking at the same one over the years and I may be > > > > complacent with it's design. > > > > > > > > - Is it still easy enough for a new developer to walk into, see > our > > > > highlights and figure out how to get started? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. The SDK installer or manual SDK download. > > > > > > > > - Is the SDK installer still easy to download and have an SDK be > > ready > > > > for whatever IDE you choose? > > > > > > > > - Does the manual SDK setup still work by our instructions? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Easy to find examples. Like off the main website. > > > > > > > > -Do we provide simple examples (hello world, basic forms, basic > > > > concepts, states) for different compiled targets (swf, air, > native, > > > > FlexJS)? > > > > > > > > -Do we have any more advanced examples (client server > > communication, > > > > advanced event handling, promises)? > > > > > > > > -Are the video's we have too old or are they still valid? > > > > > > > > -Do we need a new video's or a more detailed line of them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the holiday time period and everyone is busy, so I image > this > > > > email chain to take a while. 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