On 4/18/16, 4:34 AM, "jude" <flexcapaci...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Slightly off topic, but if someone is kind enough to give you a gift, the >proper response is to say thank you and accept it. What you do after you >accept it is another story. > >The Apache process of discussing if we should accept said gift is kind of >a >dick move. No offence, but IMHO this behaviour has to stop. And this is >not >directed at you Harbs or anyone in particular. > >I'm not saying we don't need to vet a donation, or decide if it should go >into core or be setup as a side project. But if someone wants to donate >code they own or built and it's legal then accept it and move on. > >People, and myself thought that Apache Flex was going to be the place >where >we make Flash and Flex thrive again. I thought we'd have plenty of donated >components and projects but you hear someone offer to donate something and >then it seems to die and you don't hear from them again. > >It's a huge turn off to work on a project, want to donate it and then hear >your community start talking about if they should accept your donation or >not. That's not progress is suppression. I understand that it can seem wrong to discuss accepting a gift, but besides the legal vetting others have responded about, Apache is primarily about communities, and we want to make sure that there are actually folks interested in maintaining any new code donation. To me, that is really what the vote to accept is about. Those voting +1 are hopefully saying that they are willing to learn how to fix bugs or add features in that code. > >IIRC Alex once said he's interested in collecting everything related to >Flex (and the Flash Platform?) here. So am I. And that's good enough for >me. So to be more clear, I am interested in collecting things related to Flex that the community wants to maintain and improve. AS3Commons, SWIZ, Parsley, and all of those other 3rd party things that lots of folks use and are afraid the server that serves them might go away. But only if we have folks here willing to help maintain and create releases for that code, which is why there will be votes on each one. But I also want to make sure that there is an ecosystem for which active code bases can find their own communities or folks can maintain a profit model. That's another reason for the discussion, which is to make sure the donators truly understand the impact of donating to Apache. We are, in most cases, taking more than code: we are taking in people with that code. -Alex