Hi Alex, I didn't want to say you're bossing people around. That's not the case. It's just that contributing is hard and currently only few seem to be contributing. You are by far the one working most on the project and that sort of implicitly makes you the "big boss".
Additionally your: "I don't see a benefit of wasting my precious time for lowering the entry-bounds for others and rather work on features" seems to manifest this even more. For me lowering this contribution bounds is the highest priority and I was hoping to grab you and the others to discuss options of doing this at ApacheCon. It might even happen, that I will be giving a free full day Maven training there. But I'm waiting for the LF to contact me. And no ... I'm tired of doing a Maven tutorial via Email ;-) Chris ________________________________________ Von: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> Gesendet: Montag, 7. März 2016 19:23 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: ApacheCon NA 2016 On 3/7/16, 1:37 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote: >I think you misunderstood me. > >For me it's not about growing the numbers of the community, but actually >growing the quality of the existing community. We might be called a >community on the paper, but it certainly doesn't feel that way (At least >for me). For me it feels as if there's the "big boss" and 1 or two >"seconds in command", a bunch of people contributing little parts, but >it's not what I would call a real community. Hmm, I think you referring to me as the 'big boss'? Do other's agree? That is certainly not my intention. If you have examples of how I have acted improperly or behaviors you think I should change, please let me know. Other's too, either on this thread or via direct email. For sure, I have a much larger impact on the project than other PMC members because I have the privilege of being paid to contribute full time, but I don't think I'm telling people what to do. IMO, Apache is supposed to be a "do-ocracy" and it is just that I have the resources to do more. > >Perhaps next time you should apply for Apache TAC ... after all that's >exactly what this institution is for: "Money shouldn't be a reason not to >come". IMO, I should not waste Apache's TAC money on me. If I get chosen to speak, Adobe (and/or I) should pay for the privilege. Because I was not chosen, the question is now about how best to spend that money and time. If I do take the time and money to get up to meet you, how do you think that will improve the project? I still plan to try to get a talk accepted at ApacheCon EU so there is still a chance we can meet F2F this year. Is there some pressing issue that needs to be discussed F2F sooner than this fall? If I do get to go to ApacheCon EU, I also get a chance to meet Harbs and maybe some other committers I haven't met. An alternate plan is that we meet up outside of the conference. I just checked the train schedule (I would take the train instead of drive to Vancouver so I could get some work done on the way). Looks like a train arrives around noon so I could be at the hotel or nearby around 12:30 and I'd need to head back towards the train before 5pm. If you are amenable to meeting outside the conference for an hour or two, let's see how the schedules and other TAC obligations work out. And maybe LF will offer a $100 day pass if they don't get enough early sign ups. Thoughts? -Alex
