From my perspective, any solution to make this happen and allow progress to be 
made on Falcon is good.

The migration script sounds like a good idea. It actually might have a 
side-benefit that folks like me can read the script to help understand what 
you’re doing.

Harbs

On Feb 18, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:

> Just had an idea in the tram ...
> 
> As hoping for this to happen is probably as much promising as hoping for NSA 
> not to stop reading everything they can ...
> 
> I will work on develop ... I don't need to modify files, but I need to move 
> them. In praralel I need to add a pom.xml. So how about this. I write a 
> migration script, that automates the moving of stuff and I add that to the 
> repo same as with the pom.xml. Before updating I revert my local changes, 
> update and re-apply the script after that and continue working on the 
> migration. When it's finished you guys can also execute the script and fix 
> the Ant build. This way we can migrate without any of us having to stop 
> working for too long.
> 
> And Harbs ... I can't confirm that Git is able to pull changes to files that 
> have moved. At least I always had problems with this. That's also why I am so 
> hesitant to start working on a branch.
> 
> But I guess with this strategy it should work, what do you think?
> 
> Chris
> 
> ________________________________________
> Von: Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Februar 2016 13:50
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: AW: AW: [FALCONJX]Compiling Falcon with externs problems
> 
> As I said in the other Mail, I can't just change these thing as you guys are 
> working on develop.
> 
> That's a special case ... If I branch and do the changes there and you 
> continue to work on it, I can't merge stuff back.
> The alternative of me changing it on develop would break the Ant build. So in 
> this case it's the option for you guys to stop working for quite some time 
> and me to do the refactoring or you do it during your work (You probably have 
> more free time to work on Flex than I do)
> 
> Well I'll shut my fingers for now (and sorry for that crappy mail ... writing 
> emails on mobile phones while being at the Hotel breakfast sort of sucks)
> 
> Chris
> 
> ________________________________________
> Von: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Februar 2016 08:57
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: [FALCONJX]Compiling Falcon with externs problems
> 
> On 2/17/16, 11:14 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> 
>> I'm currently not contributing, choose it's impossible to setup. And I'm
>> just fed up with the build and could even work through the quirks. I just
>> don't want to anymore.
>> 
>> As justin said, I have a paid job where I have to deal with that sort of
>> crap every day. My open source involvement is my hobbie. So it's
>> reasonable for me not to do the stuff I have to do in my day job.
>> 
>> It has been the problem with flex, that it has a very demanding user set.
>> I got to know that during my time with flexmojos. You have to distinguish
>> between the people demanding stuff, cause they want ur and the ones that
>> would give stuff back. Apache is about the "please help me help you"
>> people and not the "you have to give me stuff cause I use your software"
>> ones.
> 
> Chris, my take on your tone is that I have to give you Maven stuff or else
> you won't contribute.  It does not sound like "please help me help you".
> Falcon clearly isn't "impossible" to set up, because several folks have
> set it up.
> 
> Please help me help you to help me help you ;-).  Let's have a discussion
> on what should move where and in what order to make Falcon more amenable
> to Maven.  Nobody is arguing that Maven for Falcon isn't important or that
> your contributions aren't important, but saying the current state is
> "impossible" and saying you won't contribute until someone else takes
> action is not going to make Maven for Falcon happen faster than starting a
> conversation in a collegial rather than demanding tone.  So far, nobody
> has spoken out to say that Maven for Falcon is going to be the killer
> feature to show at the next couple of public FlexJS events, so I'm still
> spending most of my time trying to develop enough new features that I hope
> will get more people to try to migrate their Flex projects to FlexJS and
> start asking where the Maven integration is.
> 
> Now please, can we start a thread on what the next actual steps are?
> 
> -Alex
> 

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