Well actually it sounded like: We had AMF support, but it didn't perfrom as well so we threw it away ...
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2015 18:56 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [FLEXJS] AMF (was Re: AW: lib sprite flexjs,add graphics.as (canvas)) Instead of talking about throwing it away, why not discuss what is needed to implement AMF? It sounds to me like a great goal. I personally have never used AMF, so I have no idea. Harbs On Dec 1, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote: > There is no need for a amf to json converter. You would just use a different > serializer instead. > > What I'm worried about is that amf is way more powerful than json. Let me > name some benefits: > - strongly typed > - able to serialize cyclic object graphs > - uses way less bandwidth > > Actually one of my talks at the last apachecon dealt with this entirely. > > Giving up on this makes one of actionscripts benefits sort of useless. What's > the good of being able to use strong types, if these get lost on the way from > the server to the client? > > If we throw overboard all the good stuff, we'll be just one if the > other frameworks > > Chris > > > > Von meinem Samsung Galaxy Smartphone gesendet. > > > -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- > Von: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > Datum: 01.12.2015 18:29 (GMT+01:00) > An: dev@flex.apache.org > Betreff: [FLEXJS] AMF (was Re: AW: lib sprite flexjs,add graphics.as > (canvas)) > > Hi, > > Renaming this fork of the thread... > > Well, I have no doubts that AMF is quite popular, but I guess I really > should have asked these questions: > > 1) If FlexJS didn't exist and you couldn't use FlashPlayer, how would > you get data from the server to client (and back again)? JSON, XML, > some other thing? The reason I haven't spent any energy on AMF for > FlexJS is because I think folks would have had to stop using AMF > anyway. Maybe there is an simple AMF-to-JSON module that folks could > implement on their servers to do the job so you don't have to rewrite your > server code. > 2) If FlexJS did have AMF but its performance was worse than using > JSON, would you still choose the slower AMF implementation? It isn't > clear that implementing AMF in JS is going to perform as well as > browser-native JSON or flash-native NetConnection. > 3) What is the minimum version of IE that needs to support this? > > Thanks, > -Alex > > On 12/1/15, 7:24 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira" > <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> AMF is "key" for Flex in IT ecosystem. you could make a Poll and, if >> most of people involved in Flex would fill it, you'll be surprised of >> the amount of AMF people is using to comunicate with server-side. >> >> So, this means, that for me and many others, the AMF is a requisite, >> (more even that Maven, that already is) to start prototyping and >> working with FlexJS in a day by day basis trying to change the >> traditional Flex 4.x layer for a FlexJS layer. >> >> HTTPService is a must, and is a good base, but it's used in any IT >> app about 5% of the times. People uses RemoteObject (and some times >> Web Services due to some request) as main RPCs >> >> For me AMF (and I think for many others) is the final wall to start >> investing time in our IT depts with FlexJS. >> >> Take into account that there are many server side business logic out >> there (Java, PHP, .NET, Ruby...) thats abstract all the things >> happening in the server from the Flex client, and is exposed to Flex >> through AMF - RemoteObjects. So having AMF in FlexJS seems the >> potential keypoint to start trying to change Flex 4.x for FlexJS, >> since you don't have the need to touch server side services. >> >> So, is a fact that AMF is key for FlexJS. >> >> Thanks for asking Alex >> >> Carlos >> >> >> >> >> 2015-12-01 15:55 GMT+01:00 Vincent <vinc...@after24.net>: >> >>> +1, >>> All of our projects use AMF >>> >>> >>> Le 01/12/2015 15:52, Christofer Dutz a écrit : >>> >>>> Cause AMF is so much cooler than JSON ;-) >>>> >>>> I too would like to see AMF in FlexJS ... >>>> Actually if we drop AMF support there's no need for me to keep >>>> maintaining BlazeDS any longer. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> Von: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> >>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2015 15:32 >>>> An: dev@flex.apache.org >>>> Betreff: Re: lib sprite flexjs,add graphics.as (canvas) >>>> >>>> On 12/1/15, 5:22 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos >>>> Rovira" >>>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of >>>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I start to think the only big problem is now to get AMF comming to >>>>> FlexJS. >>>>> >>>>> All frameworks (FlexJS, feathers, ...) out there are very cool, >>>>> but all lacks RPC APIs (RemoteObject, ...) >>>>> >>>>> And without that is impossible to propose a starter project in a >>>>> company or IT dept with FlexJS... >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Carlos, why AMF? FlexJS does have HTTPService. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Alex >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carlos Rovira >> Director General >> M: +34 607 22 60 05 >> http://www.codeoscopic.com >> http://www.avant2.es >> >> >> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario y puede >> contener información privilegiada o confidencial. 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