I would love to have simple build (doesn't matter ant or maven) WBR, Maxim (from mobile, sorry for the typos) On Nov 6, 2015 14:23, "jude" <flexcapaci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What needs to change? Please list things out here. I started working on a > very small UI that's goal is to help install FlexJS, create new project and > compile that project (and return errors and warnings). Right now it's just > calling out to the ant build and running different targets on it. I don't > know yet how to set the environment up to make all those targets work. But > we have the same goal to make it easier. I can just as easily work with > maven. Let me know what you need and how to help. > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Christofer Dutz < > christofer.d...@c-ware.de> > wrote: > > > Moving this thread to public dev list ... > > > > Adding my statement from the initial thread, that from now on I will stop > > contributing to things not built by a sensible build (doesn't have to be > > Maven even if I strongly suggest it). > > > > Chris > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2015 23:07 > > An: priv...@flex.apache.org > > Betreff: Re: Loosing my drive ... > > > > Chris, can we re-start or move this thread to dev@? I don’t think it > > should be private. It’s ok for the community to know you are frustrated. > > If not, can we at least start a poll on dev@ about Maven? > > > > I have more to say, but I’d rather wait until the thread is public. > > > > Thanks, > > -Alex > > > > On 11/5/15, 1:59 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash > Muppirala" > > <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >Chris, > > > > > >I really hope you don't lose drive. Think of this as a marathon and > > >not a sprint, if that helps :-) > > > > > >Building with maven is a great thing to have for Flex and FlexJS. The > > >main problem is that lots of folks don't know what Maven is, much less > > >go inside and make it work. I believe you are one of the very few in > > >the world who can do this. > > > > > >Maybe, you can start by describing the problems you are seeing, explain > > >why they need to be solved and ask others to help out. It would be > > >beneficial if you a live wiki page where you list a set of issues you > > >are working on and invite people to help out. Smaller the chunks, the > > >easier it is for others to help out. > > > > > >When I was working on the Android 4.x and iOS7+ skins, it seemed > > >overwhelming at the beginning. Then I asked people for help and few > > >folks helped out which inspired me to work and really helped out the > > >project as a whole. > > > > > >Here are the wiki pages I had going during that project: > > >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Progress+info+for+Andr > > >oid > > >+4.x+skins > > >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=466337 > > >47 > > > > > >Hope this helps. > > > > > >Thanks for all the great work you have been doing all these years. > > > > > >Regards, > > >Om > > > > > >On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Chris, > > >> > > >> We definitely don’t want you to lose your drive. (At least I don’t…) > > >> > > >> Personally, until recently I knew nothing about build processes. > > >> Sure, I’ve run ant from the command line, but I had no clue what I was > > doing. > > >> > > >> To me, Maven is just a word. I got to the point where I have an idea > > >>how ant works, although I can’t say I’m really proficient at using > > >>it. I know nothing about Maven besides the fact that you believe very > > >>strongly that it’s the way to go. I’d be willing to learn if you’re > > >>willing to teach. > > >> > > >> I do agree with you that the build process is pretty complex (or at > > >>least it feels that way), but I don’t know if that’s by necessity or > > >>not. To me it seems like a mess of ant scripts dependent on each > > >>other where the dependencies are very hard to follow. Maybe even a > > >>document which spells out the dependencies and the order of them (if > > >>the order matters) would be helpful. > > >> > > >> On Nov 5, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Christofer Dutz > > >> <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Taking this to another thread ... > > >> > > > >> > The problem is that for the last 3 or 4 years I have done nothing > > >> > else > > >> than clean up behind others. I want to create great things, but all I > > >>do all the time is clean up. Why? Cause none else seems to care and > > >>if I don't do it none will. But I'm dramatically loosing my drive. > > >>Especially if I motivate myself to get things done and then I have to > > >>wait till that drive goes away due to politics, legal discussions, > > >>simple understanding issues or other restraints. Other people seem to > > >>have similar issues, but I can't tell cause I have stopped reading > > >>the FlexJS and Falcon release threads a while ago as they only seemed > > >>to contain people having problems. > > >> > > > >> > With Maven, no matter what project I have come across, all you > > >> > needed > > >>to > > >> do is, checkout and run "mvn clean install" ... no matter what > > >>project, it just works and I can concentrate on what I want to do ... > > >>cause it's definitely not me wanting to be the caretaker of a build > > >>someone puked into the repository (I am not talking about the Flex > > >>build being build-puke, it's bad, but not quite that bad ;-) , but I > > >>have come across quite some bad builds in my past). If our build was > > >>deterministic and simple, more than two people would contribute, but > > >>I'm repeating myself. I would suggest to hit the brake, cleanup the > > >>build and as soon as that's solid, continue. > > >> I know that this way the release will be later, but we would gain the > > >>momentum we need. FlexJS will never reach it's potential as long as > > >>only 2 or 3 people work on it. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Chris > > >> > > >> > > > > >
