So basically your saying the output of ES5 from Babel?

Mike

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You might also consider looking at the output of Babel. Babel transpiles
> ECMAScript 6 back to older versions of the language that are more widely
> supported today. TypeScript is trying to be a superset of ES6, so it should
> be pretty similar.
>
> http://babeljs.io
>
> - Josh
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Michael Schmalle <
> teotigraphix...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Ok Update.
> >
> > I have been researching TypeScript and it's output, this is what I am
> > doing. For some reason this "just" makes sense to me and the are 100's of
> > examples I can use to test the code generation against.
> >
> > Josh, I would say if you want to start experimenting with your framework,
> > use what you just showed me as a base and I can meet you in the middle,
> > then we can figure our the quirks together.
> >
> > I will/am start/ing working on this ASAP.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Michael Schmalle <
> > teotigraphix...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok,
> > >
> > > I am a doer... :) Since this is all POC right now and I am up to learn
> > > some JS, I will use this as a format. I have done this JSEmitter 2
> times
> > > now so the 3rd isn't going to be that hard, maybe the charm for me to.
> > >
> > > Note, most of the expressions and statements are already done. As
> noted,
> > > inheritance, scope and set/get always are the pains but if I have a
> > target
> > > output protocol like TypeScript's output, why not emulate it.
> > >
> > > Alex, I know what you are thinking... Don't. :) My gut feeling is, if I
> > > start from the ground up and have NO dependencies on anything, I will
> do
> > > this twice as fast. I am very good at refactoring so once I have tests
> > > working on the generated .js, we can see what could be abstracted to
> and
> > > from this emitter and FlexJS.
> > >
> > > I really think for my own sanity, I need to start in isolation and not
> > get
> > > in FlexJS's way either, that is another pro for me, no commit
> conflicts,
> > > nothing of that nature.
> > >
> > > Thoughts Josh, Alex?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> When I played with TypeScript, I loved that I could subclass CreateJS
> > >> prototypes very easily. As long as something like that is possible
> from
> > >> ActionScript (assuming I could provide a SWC or something for CreateJS
> > or
> > >> whichever library I want to use), I don't have too strong of an
> opinion
> > on
> > >> how the final JavaScript looks.
> > >>
> > >> I'll just say that I like the clean code that the TypeScript compiler
> > >> outputs. To me, it looked pretty much like what I might write
> manually,
> > if
> > >> I were using vanilla JavaScript. Looking at the TypeScript playground,
> > the
> > >> Inheritance example and the Modules example both look very nice.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.typescriptlang.org/Playground
> > >>
> > >> - Josh
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Michael Schmalle <
> > >> teotigraphix...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > New thread:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On 5/27/15, 9:52 AM, "Michael Schmalle" <
> teotigraphix...@gmail.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >Well, when I said "teach" I just meant getting into the code.
> > >> Really, I
> > >> > > >know the base part of the compiler and the walker/visitor
> framework
> > >> well
> > >> > > >;-), so getting FalconJX to use an HTML.swc would be exactly
> what I
> > >> am
> > >> > > >looking for to do.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >This is where you can keep doing what you are good at and I can
> > work
> > >> on
> > >> > > >what I am good at(code rendering).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Can I ask you to start another thread and outline what you see
> > needs
> > >> to
> > >> > be
> > >> > > >done to accomplish what is in your mind dealing with FalconJX and
> > the
> > >> > > >HTML.swc? If you can just brainstorm, then I can ask you
> questions
> > to
> > >> > fill
> > >> > > >in the gaps that I am not seeing.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > As I see it, FalconJX should just be able to grab some SWCs and
> > >> > > cross-compile some AS based on definitions in the SWCs.  Right now
> > we
> > >> > feed
> > >> > > it playerglobal/airglobal and FlexJS swcs with UIBase widgets, but
> > in
> > >> > > theory, as Josh suggests we should be able to replace those SWCs
> > with
> > >> > just:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > jsglobal.swc:
> > >> > > Object
> > >> > > Number
> > >> > > String
> > >> > > <what else>?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > HTML.swc:
> > >> > > Window
> > >> > > Event
> > >> > > UIEvent
> > >> > > MouseEvent
> > >> > > HTMLElement
> > >> > > etc.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > See for HTML lib, Roland used WebIDL parser to create it;
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > https://github.com/RandoriAS/randori-libraries/tree/master/HTMLCoreLib
> > >> >
> > >> > The builtin.swc we made;
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > https://github.com/RandoriAS/randori-tools/tree/develop/RandoriBuiltin
> > >> >
> > >> > Read the README, does this violate anything?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > Then folks should be able to test drive FalconJX by running some
> AS
> > >> > > through it to get any JS they normally use in their web apps, and
> we
> > >> > > should be able to stop writing any JS at all.  All files in
> > flex-asjs
> > >> > that
> > >> > > are currently .JS files should be able to be written in AS and
> > >> > > cross-compiled with only those two SWCs.  I can tell you that it
> > would
> > >> > > probably have saved us much time if we had this already.  It is
> > >> painful
> > >> > > doing .JS code simply in the writing of ‘this.’ and ‘prototype’.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > Yeah, not to mention compile time checking. :)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Anyway, that’s as far as I’ve thought on this subject.  As you
> said
> > in
> > >> > > another thread this is where we’d have to prove there are no
> > >> hard-coded
> > >> > > dependencies in Falcon/FalconJX on playerglobal/airglobal.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > See the above links and give feedback on what you think.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > OK, one more thought: there may be reverse-engineering issues
> about
> > >> > > replacing playerglobal/airglobal, but I was hoping we might find
> > some
> > >> > > Tamarin code laying around that has what we’d start with for
> > >> > jsglobal.swc.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > I think this is what Roland actually did, I know he found it some
> > >> where(how
> > >> > to build the builtin.swc Randori used).
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Question; So the code style, you said we might use the FlexJS
> emitter
> > >> but I
> > >> > don't see how that is possible since it's not a vanilla emitter.
> > >> >
> > >> > It seems to me I need to know the exact code style that a vanilla
> > >> > transpiler will create and I can make that emitter as another
> backend,
> > >> what
> > >> > do you think?
> > >> >
> > >> > @Josj you have any thoughts? I am ready to start writing it. :)
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -Alex
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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