Alex,

I would love to see you host a webconference on getting started with
FlexJS.  That should help people who are interested, but are not able to
get the ball rolling.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Om
On Mar 18, 2015 8:49 AM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:

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>
> On 3/18/15, 5:10 AM, "Krüger, Olaf" <okrue...@edscha.com> wrote:
>
> >> This message is meant for everyone who thinks that if they wait long
> >>enough, a release will spontaneously materialize...
> >> If half of the folks on this list each found 30 minutes a month to work
> >>on FlexJS... that would result in 200 person-hours per month, which
> >>easily exceeds my total monthly output
> >
> >I'm sure that there're a lot of people including me who always had a
> >guilty conscience cause of only consuming new stuff without contributing
> >anything.
> >But I'm also sure that there're a lot of people who are willing to
> >contribute and if 30min per month would help to really move on any kind
> >of Flex project even more.
> >I think the thing is that the hurdle before entering new stuff is always
> >high... much more than 30 minutes ;-)  Also I think a lot of us see
> >themselves as application developer using an given Framework instead of
> >developing it. This is another challenge.
> >Perhaps we could collect some ideas how to encourage the community to
> >contribute and ideas how to scale down the hurdles?
> >
> >To reach most of us my first idea is to send regular 'contribute
> >invitation' emails to the dev AND users group. This email could contain
> >all existing Flex projects with an extract of concrete upcoming tasks.
> >Perhaps this makes it easier to all of us to find a concrete starting
> >point to contribute?
>
> Sending emails is a reasonable suggestion.  Really, those emails should be
> release announcements.  For FlexJS I’ve been (and still am) buried in some
> big refactorings so we haven’t had a new FlexJS in too long.  But soon I
> hope to get back to more frequent releases.
>
> Regarding the task list and getting started hurdles and the fact that many
> of you consider yourself more of application developers vs framework
> developers, I think one way to approach FlexJS is to think of a small test
> project on the order of FlexStore that you would use to convince yourself
> or your bosses that FlexJS is ready for harder tasks.  Then get FlexJS
> installed and try to build that project.  I’d bet that most of you have
> created a monkey-patch by now.  In the past, it was hard to get your
> monkey-patch accepted by Adobe.  In theory, Apache is all about accepting
> these monkey-patches.  So if in the building of your test project you find
> a bug and create a monkey-patch to fix it, that patch is your
> contribution.  File a bug in JIRA and add the patch.  JIRA should be our
> effective task list.  Put features you find missing in JIRA as well and
> maybe someone else will work on it.
>
> IMO, that’s also the Apache Way.  Instead of having to convince Adobe
> product managers that your feature or fix is important enough to be
> included in the next release, you just submit it in JIRA and Apache Flex
> committers are supposed to help you get it in.  And if you do that often
> enough, you’ll probably become one of those committers.
>
> And a reminder, it will be rough going for a while and you’ll find lots of
> things missing, but that may comprise your early contributions.  You might
> be adding to wiki or README how to get started, or just filing JIRA issues.
>
> Thanks for your offer to contribute,
> -Alex
>
>

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