Hi Gordon, Darrell, Alex,

I've been able to work on it a bit tonight and realized that I was wrong, 
actually, I can get the right NS infos parsed and emitted but can't get it back 
thru the ABCParser.
I've been confused because I didn't check the Qualifier NS but instead its kind 
which was 5 (private) as I wanted but it was actually the one of the 
CMImplicitNS (aka, invalid NS) and wasn,'t able to find in the chain where it 
has been forced as I thought having removed all the one implicated in defining 
a ctor NS, I wonder now if the fact that the ctor is not part of a trait is the 
cause ?

Any way, I started to explore other possibilities, one of them is to pass the 
NS info via MetaTag as done for go_to_definition and use this info in the 
semantic checker as I can't at the time of the ABC Parsing, set the NS because 
the Metadata are checked after the methodbody and in more, I've got no info at 
this point about the super class except its name coming from InstanceInfo (or 
indirectly via IReference) but would like to think I can manage to use the 
MetaTag (like "[constructor(ns:'protected')]  in the semantic checker, do you 
see any problem in doing so or if there's a better place and moment to do it 
except it could be erased by the optimiser ?

The last possibility as I didn't see any drawback yet in debugging it in the 
emitter, is to pass the info directly in the name at FunctionNode construction 
time and either set the NS accordingly or use this info in the semantic 
checker,  as far as I've debugged it (didn't to the test yet but followed all 
the emitter chain), I didn't see any problem that could be to emit it and don't 
think there are any in reading it either thru the ABCParser, I would pass for 
example pass "protected:MyConstructorName", tweak the 
FunctionNode:isConstructor accordingly and remove the CMImplitNS checks as I 
did until now, what do you think, do you see any problem with this approach ?

More over if the latter appears to be a valid option, it could be used for the 
method overloading.

Thanks,
Frédéric THOMAS

> Subject: Re: AW: [Falcon] Constructor NS (was: [Falcon] starting up)
> From: gsmit...@hotmail.com
> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 09:24:14 -0700
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> 
> It's a bit different in that the AVM is strict about access modifiers; you 
> cannot use reflection to call a private method from outside its class. 
> However I know developers have wanted non-public constructors for a long time 
> and most won't care if they're not enforced at runtime, so I don't object to 
> the compiler enhancement. I just wanted to mention something that folks 
> should be aware of.
> 
> Another thing to be aware of is that this mean there will be source code that 
> compiles under a Falcon that doesn't compile under the old compiler. Would we 
> change the old compiler as we'll or not bother? I'd say don't bother.
> 
> - Gordon
> 
> > On Oct 5, 2014, at 8:09 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > But in java this is not much different. Unless you explicitly tell your 
> > Java VM to be strict, you can get a private constructor via Reflection, 
> > make this accesslible at runtime and instantiate it, no matter what the 
> > source-code says. Same with the type of generics. 
> > 
> > So I guess it would be a great addition to Flex to at least have features 
> > checked by the compiler, even if the runtime doesn't enforce it.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Gordon Smith [mailto:gsmit...@hotmail.com] 
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2014 04:36
> > An: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: [Falcon] Constructor NS (was: [Falcon] starting up)
> > 
> > In general the ActionScript Virtual Machine enforces access modifiers (so 
> > that, for example, something marked private is truly inaccessible by any 
> > means outside the class) but I don't think the AVM enforces non-public 
> > constructors. I'm guessing that a constructor in the ABC is public 
> > regardless of what the source code says, which would mean that the 
> > constructor could be invoked by any code via reflection. If this is the 
> > case, I'm not convinced we should pretend that constructors can be 
> > non-public.
> > 
> > - Gordon
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >>> On Oct 4, 2014, at 4:14 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Oct 4, 2014 12:55 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <webdoubl...@hotmail.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> I started to check if it was possible to have private and protected
> >> constructor in Falcon and I have to admit it was tricky especially 
> >> because I never seen a compiler from inside before but it is 
> >> apparently possible, I've been able to compile successfully:
> >>> package myLib {
> >>> public class CTORTest {
> >>>   private var _p:int;
> >>> 
> >>>   private function CTORTest(p:int) {
> >>>       _p = p;
> >>>   }
> >>> 
> >>>   private function anotherFct():CTORTest {
> >>>       return new CTORTest(10);
> >>>   }
> >>> }
> >>> }
> >>> and using the compiled lib:
> >>> 
> >>> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> >>> <s:Application xmlns:fx="http://ns.adobe.com/mxml/2009";
> >> xmlns:s="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/spark"
> >> creationComplete="creationCompleteHandler(event)">
> >>>   <fx:Script><![CDATA[
> >>>       import mx.events.FlexEvent;
> >>> 
> >>>       import myLib.CTORTest;
> >>> 
> >>>       private function creationCompleteHandler(event:FlexEvent):void {
> >>>           var a:CTORTest = new CTORTest(1);
> >>>       }
> >>>       ]]></fx:Script>
> >>> </s:Application>
> >>> 
> >>> gives:
> >>> [Fault] exception, information=VerifyError: Error #1014: La classe
> >> myLib:CTORTest::CTORTest est introuvable. (not found) with the legacy 
> >> compiler
> >>> and:
> >>> F:\sources\falconTestDrive\shell\src\Main.mxml:9
> >>> Erreur: Appel d'une méthode qui ne semble pas définie CTORTest. (Call 
> >>> to
> >> a undefined method)
> >>>           var a:CTORTest = new CTORTest(1);
> >>> 
> >>> (I will customize the error message later)
> >>> 
> >>> I still need to check it works in the 3 possible ways to instantiate 
> >>> a
> >> Class [1] (at the moment it works only with 1st one), check that works 
> >> with is  / instanceOf, revisit the cast function accordingly and maybe 
> >> other things not yet in my mind and especially check FP won't complain 
> >> using it.
> >>> 
> >>> /* expression = FunctionCallID(KeywordNewID(void), new_type_name,
> >> ContainerID(expression*)) */
> >>> /* expression = FunctionCallID(KeywordNewID(void), expression,
> >> ContainerID(expression*)) */
> >>> /* expression = FunctionCallID(KeywordNewID(void), vector_literal,
> >> ContainerID(void)) */
> >>> 
> >>> In case all this works and I'm far to know it at the moment, I will 
> >>> have
> >> to think about implement "method overloading" otherwise I can't see 
> >> any usage of a protected constructor and therefore will probably 
> >> require some help for the best way to implement it.
> >> 
> >> Exciting to see these kind of experiments.  A really good usecase for 
> >> private constructor would be to create a Singleton class, I.e a class  
> >> that cannot be instantiated outside of itself.  Would that be 
> >> something you can test for?
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Om
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Frédéric THOMAS
> >>> 
> >>>> From: webdoubl...@hotmail.com
> >>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: RE: [Falcon] starting up
> >>>> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 16:57:28 +0100
> >>>> 
> >>>> Ah ok, thanks Gordon, I was tearing my hair out :-)
> >>>> 
> >>>> Frédéric THOMAS
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Falcon] starting up
> >>>>> From: gsmit...@hotmail.com
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 08:51:16 -0700
> >>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> That comment is out of date. Code Model was the part of pre-Falcon
> >> Flash Builder that built an abstract syntax tree to support 
> >> intelligent editing. We used it as the beginning of Falcon's lexer and 
> >> parser. The code is just looking at the AST to see if the constructor 
> >> has a non-public namespace.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> - Gordon
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 8:33 AM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <
> >> webdoubl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I updated it to v17.0 and check in
> >> falcon\compiler\generated\dist\sdk\lib\external, is there.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> oops, looking better, it has both, just removed the bad one, it
> >> runs.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Now, looking at internal\as\codegen\ClassDirectiveProcessor.java, 
> >>>>>> I
> >> see that:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> // If a constructor has a namespace as part of it's declaration, 
> >>>>>> it
> >> must be declared public.
> >>>>>> // It is ok to omit the namespace
> >>>>>> // We must check the AST, as CM treats all ctors as public no
> >> matter what the user typed in
> >>>>>> // so the FunctionDefinition will always be in the public 
> >>>>>> namespace if( node.getActualNamespaceNode() != null &&
> >>>>>>      node.getActualNamespaceNode().getName() !=
> >> IASKeywordConstants.PUBLIC)
> >>>>>>  problems.add(new
> >> ConstructorMustBePublicProblem(node.getActualNamespaceNode()));
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> What is the CM or Code Model ?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Frédéric THOMAS
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> From: aha...@adobe.com
> >>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Falcon] starting up
> >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 13:36:50 +0000
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Could you have an old guava.jar?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> On 10/1/14 4:32 AM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <webdoubl...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I built it with ANT an ran Falcon compc.bat from the
> >> generated/dist/sdk,
> >>>>>>>> does anyone knows why I get that ?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> >>>>>>>> com/google/common/cache/CacheLoader
> >>>>>>>> at 
> >>>>>>>> org.apache.flex.compiler.clients.MXMLC.<init>(MXMLC.java:379)
> >>>>>>>> at org.apache.flex.compiler.clients.COMPC.<init>(COMPC.java:54)
> >>>>>>>> at
> >> org.apache.flex.compiler.clients.COMPC.staticMainNoExit(COMPC.java:75)
> >>>>>>>> at org.apache.flex.compiler.clients.COMPC.main(COMPC.java:63)
> >>>>>>>> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
> >>>>>>>> com.google.common.cache.CacheLoader
> >>>>>>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:366)
> >>>>>>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:355)
> >>>>>>>> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)  
> >>>>>>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:354)
> >>>>>>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
> >>>>>>>> at 
> >>>>>>>> sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:308)
> >>>>>>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
> >>>>>>>> ... 4 more
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Frédéric THOMAS
> >>> 

                                          

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