>I'm not sure what is "not moral" about it.  
I agree, it's not the right word  (I am not native English speaker).
Still think it's inaccurate and unfair, as all methods that claim to "measure" 
human performance/activity or whatever...

Maybe that's in the French culture, and people in the US are used to that...

>You're right that it is inaccurate, so maybe instead of an absolute ranking, 
>maybe two buckets "recently active" and "haven't heard from in a while".  
If it's not "quantitative", but only activity vs. not active, I guess it would 
not be that hard to compute *manually*.

So if the intention is to separate active from non-active committers, and 
update that status from time to time (I don't think active vs. non active will 
change that frequently), then we can do that manually.
We could even ask committers to provider an activity status themselves, so that 
the effort is dispatched on all.  
Of course, those that do not answer will get a "non-active".

So to sum up my opinion:
- design an activity-based "point system" to committers, and build an complex 
API-based application (FlexJS or whatever) that would update the team page
=> NO
- determine (preferably manually) active vs. non-active "boolean" status of 
committers, and update the team page accordingly 
=> why not, but not the highest priority.

Back to SDK now ;-)

Maurice 
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] 
Envoyé : dimanche 16 mars 2014 05:47
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Team page - move empty people down the bottom



On 3/15/14 1:36 PM, "Maurice Amsellem" <maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote:

>> If we think about some tools for reorder this page every month based 
>>on mailing list's activity - what should be the main factor of this 
>>activity (I see only the number of posts.
>
>We should also measure the quality and relevance of the posts, based on 
>special keywords in the post answers, such as "great", "thank you", or 
>"that was really helpful".
>And we could also include the number / size of commits, similar to 
>https://github.com/apache/flex-sdk/graphs/contributors.
>
>But seriously, I am not at all in favor of this kind of ranking, 
>whatever the complexity and effort we put in, because is always unfair, 
>inaccurate, and not moral.
I'm not sure what is "not moral" about it.  The main goal is to get separation 
from our less active committers.  Right now the proposed new team page is 
unfair in that, as long as you took the time to post a picture you get more 
prominence regardless of how active you have been.

You're right that it is inaccurate, so maybe instead of an absolute ranking, 
maybe two buckets "recently active" and "haven't heard from in a while".  FWIW, 
the number of points I have on the Adobe forums vs someone else is also 
inaccurate since it relies on someone awarding points which they don't always 
do, but nobody seems to claim that there shouldn't be a point system.

After sleeping on the idea, I agree that Piotr doesn't need to do something 
like this now, but I'm interested in why Om says it is a lot of work.  This 
seems like a classic Flex use case to me.  Is the main issue that there aren't 
public web services available to get the data we need?
Because if we can get the data legally (even by screen scraping if not 
prohibited), I think it would be fun to see if we can hook a FlexJS SWF up to 
the data, then cross-compile it, get it to work and have a working FlexJS app 
on our site.

Of course, I may be too optimistic hereŠ

-Alex


>
>Just my opinion.
>
>Maurice
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : piotrz [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com]
>Envoyé : samedi 15 mars 2014 21:22
>À : dev@flex.apache.org
>Objet : RE: Team page - move empty people down the bottom
>
>Thanks Maurice. I've switched team page on staging to experimental mode 
>again.
>Page was reorganized so situation looks like that:
>
>- Should we stay with version without pictures ?
>- If we think about some tools for reorder this page every month based 
>on mailing list's activity - what should be the main factor of this 
>activity (I see only the number of posts)
>
>Piotr
>
>
>
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