Erik and Maurice.  You guys are awesome.  Thanks for figuring this out.  I
will incorporate this into the Installer app very soon.

Alex, I think we are good for now. Thanks for offering to help.

Regards,
Om


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Maurice Amsellem <
maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote:

> Didn't find anything.  I give up.
>
> After all, we have a download code that works...
>
> Maurice
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
> Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2013 17:40
> À : dev@flex.apache.org
> Objet : RE: Installer changes to go with 4.11?
>
> Sorry,  URLRequest is private, but URLConnection and HttpURLConnection are
> available.
> Looking into it now...
>
> Maurice
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
> Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2013 17:33
> À : dev@flex.apache.org
> Objet : RE: Installer changes to go with 4.11?
>
> When executing the ant get task in verbose mode it says the following (see
> below).
> So it handles the redirection properly.
>
> I have checked the source of Get task, it's very simple and relies
> entirely on java URLConnection.
>
> get
> Getting:
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osmf.adobe/OSMF%202.0%20Release%20%28final%20source%2C%20ASDocs%2C%20pdf%20guides%20and%20release%20notes%29/OSMF.swc?r=&ts=1381906346&use_mirror=optimate
>
> To: D:\ApacheFlex\git_source\flex-sdk\in\osmf.swc
>
>
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osmf.adobe/OSMF%202.0%20Release%20%28final%20source%2C%20ASDocs%2C%20pdf%20guides%20and%20release%20notes%29/OSMF.swc?r=&ts=1381906346&use_mirror=optimate
> moved to
>
> http://optimate.dl.sourceforge.net/project/osmf.adobe/OSMF%202.0%20Release%20%28final%20source%2C%20ASDocs%2C%20pdf%20guides%20and%20release%20notes%29/OSMF.swc
> ..........
>
> I also tried the initial url (with use_mirror=optimate) and got the HTML
> file, as usual :-(
>
> Obvisouly java URLConnection and Flex/Flash URLRequest do not have the
> same behavior...
>
> Difficult for me to investigate further, as these are both "system"
> classes with non-open source code...
>
> Maurice
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre
> 2013 17:12 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Installer changes to go
> with 4.11?
>
> Sounds like you have something to try, so I'm not going to investigate.
> Let me know if that's not true.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 10/18/13 7:51 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 18, 2013 1:31 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> Funny thing is these URLs succeed when used with the ant 'get' task.
> >> I recently put the one I posted before in 'downloads.xml' to fix an
> >> issue with the previous URL and it has been working fine since...
> >>
> >> EdB
> >>
> >
> >That is what I was wondering as well.  It is possible that the same
> >html file is being downloaded as swc file.  Can you open the file as a
> >zip file?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Om
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Maurice Amsellem
> >> <maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote:
> >> >>The AIR app will actually follow the redirect.  But it looks like
> >> >>on
> >the first hit they are setting a cookie and looking for the cookie
> >before downloading the >real file.  If not, they simply redirect to the
> >downloads page for a five second wait.  And they do it because they
> >want to show ads apparently [1]
> >> >
> >> > You are right.
> >> >
> >> > So I disabled cookies and javascript ,  erased all my cookies and
> >history in chrome, and run one of the URLs, and the download was
> >successful.
> >> > I inspected the OSMF.swc request, it has no cookies.
> >> >
> >> > So I suspect it has something to do with the ;ts=1382081780 that is
> >> > in
> >the URL.
> >> > That's obviously a timestamp in 100th of seconds.
> >> > So maybe the server is doing some check or something on this value,
> >>and
> >fails if does not math an expected range,
> >> > So that people cannot use an old link to download.
> >> >
> >> > Or probably not, I don't know...
> >> >
> >> > Maurice
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Message d'origine-----
> >> > De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de
> >OmPrakash Muppirala
> >> > Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2013 09:49 À : dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > Objet : Re: Installer changes to go with 4.11?
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Maurice Amsellem <
> >maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi, maybe that's obvious , as I am not an HTTP expert at all,
> >> >>
> >> >>  but the HTML content returned has a meta http-equiv "refresh",
> >> >> that reloads the pages 5 seconds later with the mirror URL (see
> >> >> below)
> >> >>
> >> >> So it's not doing redirect.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe we could parse the content and grab that URL, then send
> >> >> another download?
> >> >>
> >> >> WDYT ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > I did try exactly that.  But the meta redirect url first goes to
> >> > the
> >sourceforge.net page before it gets redirected again.  The AIR app will
> >actually follow the redirect.  But it looks like on the first hit they
> >are setting a cookie and looking for the cookie before downloading the
> >real file.  If not, they simply redirect to the downloads page for a
> >five second wait.  And they do it because they want to show ads
> >apparently [1]
> >> >
> >> > [1] http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/23335
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>   <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="5; url=
> >> >>
> >>http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osmf.adobe/OSMF%202.0%20Relea
> >> >>
> >>se%20%28final%20source%2C%20ASDocs%2C%20pdf%20guides%20and%20release%2
> >> >>
> >>0notes%29/OSMF.swc?r=app%3A%2FFlexAIRsandbox.swf&amp;ts=1382081780&amp
> >> >> ;use_mirror=freefr
> >> >> ">
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> >> De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de
> >> >> OmPrakash Muppirala Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2013 09:31 À :
> >> >> dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Installer changes to go with 4.11?
> >> >>
> >> >> You are probably correct, but every 'direct link' I tried seems to
> >> >> redirect to the same page which redirects to the actual mirror.
> >> >> In fact the link I am using was a 'direct link' to a mirror site.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am not sure if the downloads.xml link is correct either.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Om
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
> >>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > OK, will look tomorrow.  I thought this kind of URL always
> >> >> > returns an HTML page with a separate link to the mirror's url.
> >> >> > I think in some of our scripts I bake in some mirror's URL,
> >> >> > which probably isn't the "best" thing in the world to do, but
> seems to work.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Alex
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 10/17/13 11:52 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala"
> >> >> > <bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >Sure.  Here it is:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Notice that in the handleDownloadSuccess method, the file turns
> >>out
> >> >> > >to be an html page.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > ><?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <s:WindowedApplication
> >> >> > >xmlns:fx="http://ns.adobe.com/mxml/2009";
> >> >> > >                       xmlns:s="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/spark
> "
> >> >> > >                       xmlns:mx="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/mx">
> >> >> > >    <fx:Script>
> >> >> > >        <![CDATA[
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >            protected function handleDownloadBtnClick():void
> >> >> > >            {
> >> >> > >                download("
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >>http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/project/osmf.adobe/OSMF%202.0%20Rel
> >> >> > ea
> >> >> > se%2
> >> >> >
> >>>0%28final%20source%2C%20ASDocs%2C%20pdf%20guides%20and%20release%20
> >> >> > >no
> >> >> > >tes%2
> >> >> > >9/OSMF.swc
> >> >> > >",
> >> >> > >                    handleDownloadSuccess,handleDownloadError);
> >> >> > >            }
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >            private function download(url:String,
> >> >> > >handlerFunction:Function, errorFunction:Function = null):void {
> >> >> > >                var loader:URLLoader = new URLLoader();
> >> >> > >                var req:URLRequest = new URLRequest(url);
> >> >> > >                //Wait for 5 minutes before aborting download
> >attempt.
> >> >> > >Adobe download sites as well as some Apache mirrors are
> >> >> > >extremely
> >slow.
> >> >> > >                req.idleTimeout = 300000;
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >                loader.dataFormat = URLLoaderDataFormat.BINARY;
> >> >> > >                loader.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETE,
> >> >> > >handlerFunction, false, 0, true);
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >                if (errorFunction != null) {
> >> >> > >                    loader.addEventListener(ErrorEvent.ERROR,
> >> >> > >errorFunction, false, 0, true);
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >loader.addEventListener(IOErrorEvent.IO_ERROR,
> >> >> > >errorFunction, false, 0, true);
> >> >> > >                }
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >                loader.load(req);
> >> >> > >            }
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >            protected function
> >handleDownloadSuccess(event:Event):void
> >> >> > >            {
> >> >> > >                var data:ByteArray = event.target.data
> >> >> > >                var str:String = data.readUTFBytes(data.length);
> >> >> > >            }
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >            protected function
> >>handleDownloadError(event:Event):void
> >> >> > >            {
> >> >> > >                trace();
> >> >> > >            }
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >        ]]>
> >> >> > >    </fx:Script>
> >> >> > >    <s:Button verticalCenter="0" horizontalCenter="0"
> >> >> > >label="Download OSMF swc" click="handleDownloadBtnClick()" />
> >> >> > ></s:WindowedApplication>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> Can you carve out a 10-line MXML file that tests this
> >> >> > >>download capability  and post it in this thread?  It would
> >> >> > >>make it easier for folks to play  around with potential
> solutions.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> -Alex
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> On 10/17/13 4:31 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala"
> >><bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >Okay, I give up.  There is absolutely no way to download the
> >> >> > >> >osmf.swc
> >> >> > >>2.0
> >> >> > >> >file from sourceforge from the Installer.  If anyone can
> >> >> > >> >take a look,
> >> >> > >>that
> >> >> > >> >would be great.  If not, I think we should just instruct
> >> >> > >> >folks on how
> >> >> > >>to
> >> >> > >> >replace it manually.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >Thoughts?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >Thanks,
> >> >> > >> >Om
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:04 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >> >> > >> ><bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >> Just to confirm, osmf.swf should really be named
> >> >> > >> >> osmf_<flexversion>_<buildnumber>.swf, right?
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> > >> >> Om
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:54 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >> >> > >> >> bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Maurice Amsellem <
> >> >> > >> >>> maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> I have tested the download from France.
> >> >> > >> >>>> It's almost instantaneous  on a regular ADSL connection
> >> >> > >> >>>>via wifi, which  is not surprising, given the small size
> >> >> > >> >>>>of the file.
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>> It is, for me as well.
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> Where is this mirror located?
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>> Looks like it is in Zurich, Switzerland.
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> Maurice
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> -----Message d'origine----- De : omup...@gmail.com
> >> >> > >> >>>> [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la
> >>part
> >> >> > >> >>>> de OmPrakash Muppirala Envoyé : jeudi 17 octobre 2013
> >> >> > >> >>>> 20:15 À
> >> >> > >> >>>> : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Installer changes to
> >> >> > >> >>>> go with 4.11?
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> The most straightforward way to solve this problem seems
> >> >> > >> >>>>to be
> >> >> > >> >>>>-  grabbing the osmf.swc from a single mirror directly
> >> >> > >> >>>>like this [1] Here is a  short documentation on
> >> >> > >> >>>>sourceforge's mirroring system.  Any
> >> >> > >>concerns?
> >> >> > >> >>>> Any alternative ideas?
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> Thanks,
> >> >> > >> >>>> Om
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> [1]
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >>
> >>http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/project/osmf.adobe/OSMF%202.0%20
> >> >> > >> Re
> >> >> > >> leas
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>e%20%28final%20source%2C%20ASDocs%2C%20pdf%20guides%20and%20re
> >> >> > >>>>>>le
> >> >> > >>>>>>ase%2
> >> >> > >>>>>>0n
> >> >> > >> >>>>otes%29/OSMF.swc
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> [2]
> >> >> > >> >>>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Mirror
> >> >> > >> >>>> s
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:32 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >> >> > >> >>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> > The problem with this download page is that it does a
> >> >> > >> >>>> > 307
> >> >> > >>redirect
> >> >> > >> >>>>to
> >> >> > >> >>>> > the actual file.  Flex/AIR does not seem to follow the
> >> >> > >> >>>> > redirect,
> >> >> > >> >>>>even
> >> >> > >> >>>> > though I set URLRequest.followRedirects =  true.
> >> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> > Alex/others, do you know of any other location to
> >>download
> >> >> > >> >>>> > the
> >> >> > >> >>>>latest
> >> >> > >> >>>> > osmf.swc file.  We are getting the older version from
> >>here
> >> >> > >> >>>> > [1]
> >> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> > Thanks,
> >> >> > >> >>>> > Om
> >> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> > [1]
> >> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>>>>>
> >> >> >
> >>http://opensource.adobe.com/svn/opensource/flex/sdk/branches/4.y/fra
> >> >> > m
> >> >> > >>>>>>e
> >> >> > >> >>>> > works/libs/
> >> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Erik de Bruin
> >> >> > >><e...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >> >> > >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> Om,
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> Instead of:
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>>>>>
> >> >> >
> >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/osmf.adobe/files/OSMF%202.0%20Releas
> >> >> > e
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>%20%28final%20source%2C%20ASDocs%2C%20pdf%20guides%20and%20rel
> >> >> > >>>>>>ea
> >> >> > >>>>>>se%20
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>notes%29/OSMF.swc/download?use_mirror=hivelocity&r=&use_mirror
> >> >> > >>>>>>=h
> >> >> > >>>>>>ivelo
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> city
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>>>>>
> >> >> >
> >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/osmf.adobe/files/OSMF%202.0%20Releas
> >> >> > e
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>%20%28final%20source%2C%20ASDocs%2C%20pdf%20guides%20and%20rel
> >> >> > >>>>>>ea
> >> >> > >>>>>>se%20
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> notes%29/OSMF.swc/download
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> You might consider using:
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>>>>>
> >> >> >
> >>http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osmf.adobe/OSMF%202.0%20Rel
> >> >> > e
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>ase%20%28final%20source%2C%20ASDocs%2C%20pdf%20guides%20and%20
> >> >> > >>>>>>re
> >> >> > >>>>>>lease
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>%20notes%29/OSMF.swc?r=&amp;ts=1381906346&amp;use_mirror=optim
> >> >> > >>>>>>at
> >> >> > >>>>>>e<htt
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>>>>>p://
> >> >> > downloads.sourceforge.net/project/osmf.adobe/OSMF%202.0%20Releas
> >> >> > e
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >
> >>>>>>>>%20%28final%20source%2C%20ASDocs%2C%20pdf%20guides%20and%20rel
> >> >> > >>>>>>ea
> >> >> > >>>>>>se%20
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> notes%29/OSMF.swc?r=&ts=1381906346&use_mirror=optimat
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> e>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> HTH,
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> EdB
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > I have checked in all the fixes to support OSMF 2.0
> >>and
> >> >> > >>OSMF.swf
> >> >> > >> >>>> RSL.
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > There seems to be a problem with the OSMF.swc 2.0 url.
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > Can
> >> >> > >> >>>>someone
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> take a
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > look?
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > Its 3AM here in the bay area.  I am calling it a
> >>night.
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > Can someone take care of putting up the RC1
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > (windows, mac and
> >> >> > >> >>>>linux
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > versions) of Installer 2.7.0?
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > If not, I will take it up in the morning.
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > Om
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:40 PM, OmPrakash
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > Muppirala
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> > <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> On Oct 16, 2013 8:58 PM, "Justin Mclean"
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> <jus...@classsoftware.com>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > >  Should the installer learn how to pull and
> >>rename
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > >>SWF
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > > from
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> the SWC
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > That would fix the current issue with the
> >>installer.
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> I am on it.
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> Om
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > BTW not too many people are likely to run into
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > this and
> >> >> > >> >>>>there's
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > an
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> easy
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> work around eg put the file in the right place
> >yourself.
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > > or should the build script do that and leave
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > >>OSMF.SWF in
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> RSLs
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> folder with the rest of
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > > the SDK RSL SWFs?
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > License wise we can't distribute the binary
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > release with
> >> >> > >>osmf
> >> >> > >> >>>>in
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > it
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> so
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> that complicates things a little.
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > Justin
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> --
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> Ix Multimedia Software
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> 3521 VB Utrecht
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> T. 06-51952295
> >> >> > >> >>>> >> I. www.ixsoftware.n
> >> >> > >> >>>> >>
> >> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ix Multimedia Software
> >>
> >> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> 3521 VB Utrecht
> >>
> >> T. 06-51952295
> >> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
>

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