Hi Swen,
Sure, No worries :). Thanks...



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Swen van Zanten <f...@hdsign.nl> wrote:

> Hi Deepak,
>
> Those warning are there because of the import and use of the experimental
> components. This is an already known issue :)
> Nothing to worry about for now.
>
> Regards,
>
> SWEN VAN ZANTEN
> Hoofdstraat 160
> 2171 BL, Sassenheim
>
> Op 28 aug. 2013, om 14:04 heeft Deepak MS <megharajdee...@gmail.com> het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I checked background processing of the app(on iPad) with renderMode set
> to
> > ‘direct’. As Will mentioned, it does break the background processing. I
> had
> > to revert it back to ‘gpu’ and it worked fine. However, performance wise
> it
> > still remains comparatively faster even if I set the renderMode to ‘gpu’.
> > So I am retaining it to ‘gpu’, as background processing is very important
> > to retain(especially while a file downloading is in progress)
> >
> >
> >
> > However, I encountered around 16 warnings, which weren’t there in flex
> > 4.6|AIR3.6 :
> >
> > Cannot resolve namespace qualified type 'BorderDataNavigator' in CSS
> > selector 'BorderDataNavigator' – this one is repeated 12 times
> >
> > The style 'cornerRadius' is only supported by type
> > 'spark.components.ButtonBarButton' with the theme(s) 'spark'. – this one
> is
> > repeated 4 times.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have no idea what 'BorderDataNavigator' is. It isn’t there anywhere in
> my
> > project. I haven’t used 'cornerRadius' too anywhere in the project. Any
> > idea how can we get rid of these warnings?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Will <willvj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I believe you lose the ability to perform any background tasks by
> setting
> >> rendermode to direct, at least on IOS. This will be a dealbreaker for
> many
> >> apps. See this bug for more details and be sure to vote:
> >>
> >> https://bugbase.adobe.com/**index.cfm?event=bug&id=3349232<
> https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3349232>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/23/2013 1:47 PM, jude wrote:
> >>
> >>> When using direct mode do you lose any functionality? I think there
> was a
> >>> GPU mode and you lost filters and other features so I could not use it
> at
> >>> the time. Is direct mode the same? Thanks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Deepak MS <megharajdee...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Swen,
> >>>> Thanks a lot. That really helped. It works fine now :)
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll surely be blogging about performance boost that we have in 4.10
> soon
> >>>> in my blog...I just felt like adding up NOS (Nitrous) in NFS, while
> using
> >>>> my app ! ;) Thanks for such a cool release!
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers!
> >>>> Deepak
> >>>> http://deepflex.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Swen van Zanten <f...@hdsign.nl>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Deepak,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I also had that problem,
> >>>>> this one is easily fixed by editing the skin.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> inside the scroller it looked like this:
> >>>>> <s:Grid id="grid"
> >>>>>
> >>>> itemRenderer="spark.skins.**spark.DefaultGridItemRenderer"**>
> >>>>
> >>>>>                         <s:GridLayer name="backgroundLayer"/>
> >>>>>                         <s:GridLayer name="selectionLayer"/>
> >>>>>                         <s:GridLayer name="editorIndicatorLayer"/>
> >>>>>                         <s:GridLayer name="rendererLayer"/>
> >>>>>                         <s:GridLayer name="overlayLayer"/>
> >>>>>                     </s:Grid>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> now it looks like this:
> >>>>> <s:Grid id="grid"
> >>>>>
> >>>> itemRenderer="spark.skins.**spark.DefaultGridItemRenderer"**>
> >>>>
> >>>>>         <s:gridView>
> >>>>>                 <fx:Component>
> >>>>>                         <s:GridView>
> >>>>>                                 <s:GridLayer name="backgroundLayer"/>
> >>>>>                                 <s:GridLayer name="selectionLayer"/>
> >>>>>                                 <s:GridLayer
> >>>>>
> >>>> name="editorIndicatorLayer"/>
> >>>>
> >>>>>                                 <s:GridLayer name="rendererLayer"/>
> >>>>>                                 <s:GridLayer name="overlayLayer"/>
> >>>>>                         </s:GridView>
> >>>>>                 </fx:Component>
> >>>>>         </s:gridView>
> >>>>> </s:Grid>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope it helps you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SWEN VAN ZANTEN
> >>>>> Hoofdstraat 160
> >>>>> 2171 BL, Sassenheim
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Op 23 aug. 2013, om 11:08 heeft Deepak MS <megharajdee...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> het
> >>>>> volgende geschreven:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had built an iPad app using Flex 4.6|AIR 3.6 sometime back. Looking
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>> this email, I got curious to see how my app would perform on 4.10.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Agreed! Overall performance in comparatively good.
> >>>>>> - Popups used to have a delay of 3-4 seconds, but now it just pops
> up
> >>>>>> without any
> >>>>>> delay.
> >>>>>> - Switching between tabs(for the first time) in a
> TabbedViewNavigator
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> had
> >>>>
> >>>>> a delay of 3 to 4s (based on number of UI elements on each of the tab
> >>>>>> views). But now it takes 1.5s or less.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But size got increased a little:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Compiled size was 9,178,761 bytes using flex 4.6|AIR 3.6 and it is
> >>>>>> 9,762,490 bytes using flex 4.10|AIR 3.8, which is just fine for me,
> it
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> not
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> a big issue.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, I came across one issue(which wasn't there in Flex 4.6). I
> am
> >>>>>> using a datagrid with a skinClass. If I use a skin class, it shows
> up a
> >>>>>> blank datagrid on the screen. But when I remove this skinclass
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> property,
> >>>>
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> displays the datagrid properly with all data in it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Though datagrid is not optimized for mobile, I am still using it
> for my
> >>>>>> app(iPad), as I did not find any scrolling issues. It works
> smoothly as
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> works for web.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Screentshots for reference:
> >>>>>> http://snag.gy/nAcyD.jpg - with skinClass in flex 4.10
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://snag.gy/zwWnA.jpg - without skinClass in flex 4.10
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:05 PM, DarkStone <darkst...@163.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Great!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But my friend is getting married this weekend, I've got no time to
> do
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>
> >>>>> benchmark test.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maybe next weekend I can do it, I'll try my best, I'm too busy just
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> like
> >>>>
> >>>>> everybody else.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> DarkStone
> >>>>>>> 2013-08-23
> >>>>>>> At 2013-08-23 14:13:21,"OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 22, 2013 10:21 PM, "DarkStone" <darkst...@163.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Can anyone help spreading the good news?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think we need Apache's official support to publish the news,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> indicating
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> that Flex 4.10 + AIR 3.8 running very smooth on iOS and Mac
> devices
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> when
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> renderMode is set to direct.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This is very important for the rise of the Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Can someone from the inside verify it and take it seriously,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> please~~~
> >>>>
> >>>>> We can probably do a blog post about it.  But we need some solid
> >>>>>>>> benchmarks that compares prior versions to current versions.  Is
> that
> >>>>>>>> something you can help build and publish?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for all your help!
> >>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> DarkStone
> >>>>>>>>> 2013-08-23
> >>>>>>>>> 在 2013-08-22 16:37:22,"Ram Lee" <ranbolee...@gmail.com> 写道:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Good to know that, I will try Adobe Scout sometime, I think your
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> data
> >>>>
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> awesome!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ram Lee
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 在 2013-8-22,14:58,DarkStone <darkst...@163.com> 写道:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Ram,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You're welcome.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you want precise performance benchmark, you can use Adobe
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Scout.
> >>>>
> >>>>> A friend of mine said, by using Scout, a Flex mobile application
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> has a Spark List of 500 itemRenderers on it, running on the iPod
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> touch
> >>>>
> >>>>> 5,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> madly swiping finger across the itemRenderers, Scout reported this:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If set Flex Application' framerate to 24, the runtime testing
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> result
> >>>>
> >>>>> is 24, no dropping frames!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If set framerate to 60, the result is 48-55 frames per second,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>
> >>>>> is already a big deal!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You can do your own test using Adobe Scout, good luck.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> DarkStone
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2013-08-22
> >>>>>>>>>>> At 2013-08-22 14:09:48,"Ram Lee" <ranbolee...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for the notes and good to know that!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I did try the direct renderMode on my retina Macbook and feel
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> performance improvement!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And I was wondering if there are some good performance test tools
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> make this improvement more qualified? because what I do now is just
> >>>>>>>> resizing the app window to see if it renders the diplay object
> faster
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> smoother.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Again, thanks a lot for the NEWS!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ram Lee
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2013-8-22,13:28,DarkStone <darkst...@163.com> 写道:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ram,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The major performance improvement is done by AIR 3.8 (not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> earlier
> >>>>
> >>>>> AIR versions), and the reason why Adobe didn't mention this is
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> because
> >>>>
> >>>>> they
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> always have the lousy PR (Public Relations), which hide the good
> news
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> spread the bad news, they should fire their PR managers immediately.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> At the same time, Flex 4.10 fixed a lot of bugs, which improves
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> framework perfomance as well.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So with Flex 4.10 and AIR 3.8, you can really build mobile apps
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> it, and running smooth on iPhone &amp; iPad &amp; Mac &amp; PC.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Now, we can proudly say that Flex has become the best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> crossplatform
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> application development &amp; deployment solution on earth!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> DarkStone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013-08-22
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> At 2013-08-22 13:10:38,"Ram Lee" <ranbolee...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this from AIR 3.8 or earlier versions? just searched the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> internet, wonder why Adobe didn't mention such performance
> >>>>>>>> boost on
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>> Apple devices?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 李楠
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2013-8-22,12:23,Joel Tan <joel...@cype.com.my> 写道:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I can feel the performance improvement as well on Flex
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mobile
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> app!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:20 PM, DarkStone <darkst...@163.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It surprised me when I try to recompile my old Flex 4
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects
> >>>>
> >>>>> with Flex 4.10 & AIR 3.8 SDKs, and deploy them to iPhone & iPad &
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> MacBook,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> they runnning incrediblely smooth, like 2 to 3 times faster than
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> before,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> nealy native app performance!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The trick is you need to set <renderMode>direct</**renderMode>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>
> >>>>> the -app.xml file, this will boost performance on iOS and Mac OS, so
> >>>>>>>> everybody just keep in mind of this.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Now that the performance issue of Flex has been greatly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improved
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> on mobile devices, I'm very excited, finding that Apache Flex has a
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> great
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> future!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Flex is an awesome framework, which has great development
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efficiency, I think it's time to let the world know that
> Flex
> >>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> still
> >>>>
> >>>>> kicking and it is the best solution for application (not game)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> development
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> and deployment across all platforms.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So we should really working on the official Flex Showcase,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> >>>>
> >>>>> video demos of Flex Mobile Apps on iPhone & iPad will be great! I'm
> >>>>>>>> planning to submit my own demo to the showcase when I got the
> time.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've already wrote a decent blog post to spread the good news
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the Chinese Flex Developers, here is the link:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/**blog_6f56a2bf0101dm98.html<
> http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6f56a2bf0101dm98.html>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks to the Apache Flex Community, I love Flex,
> and we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shall attract more and more people to the Flex community!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DarkStone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013-08-21
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
>
>

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