Well, shouldn't there have been some kind of discussion first, before
such a drastic step as this is taken?

We just learned from Bertrand that there are no Dictators in
Apache.org, but the way INFRA is behaving, it seems like he was wrong.

I propose that from now on all major actions wrt. git are discussed on
the list first and then decided with either a [VOTE] or [LAZY].

Now, to be clear: we now can write to SVN again, and all commits
should go to SVN?

EdB



On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
<webdoubl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> There're some issues relative to the history of the develop branch of the
> flex-sdk git and the master of the utilities git, it can't be resolved w/o
> to do the all process again.
>
>
> -Fred
>
> -----Message d'origine----- From: Erik de Bruin
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:27 PM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
>
>
> Before I totally freak out, please explain to me what just happened?
> Why did INFRA abort the migration?
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
> <webdoubl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Erik,
>>
>> Yes, we're going to do the all process again until everything is ok.
>> You shouldn't start working on git until this point (we're all locked at
>> the
>> moment), in between, you can do a patch, that should be easy to re-apply
>> against the final version.
>>
>>
>> -Fred
>>
>> -----Message d'origine----- From: Erik de Bruin
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:18 PM
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: AW: SVN to Git migration in progress
>>
>>
>> What does that mean? I have spent 2 days moving from SVN to git. Right
>> now my entrire FlexJS MXML in FalconJx contribution is in git. Does
>> this message mean that we go back to SVN? What does that mean for the
>> work I already did in git, will I have to do the whole setup over
>> again?
>>
>> If true, I'll go back to ranting... and no kittens will stop me this time!
>>
>> EdB
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
>> <webdoubl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Just an update from the infra [1] :
>>>
>>> <danielsh_> Fine, I've made your svn space rw again. That does mean we'll
>>> have to do the "make ro, create git repo, review it, make rw" dance from
>>> the
>>> start sometime later.
>>>
>>> I suppose we can't commit in between ?
>>>
>>> <danielsh_> The critical section is that the git repo must receive no
>>> commits while the PMC audits it. And that's usually accompanied by
>>> freezing
>>> svn (except site) to avoid a split brain condition. IOW if you commit to
>>> svn, git won't have those commits when made writable.
>>>
>>> -Fred
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5549#comment-13601070
>>>
>>> -----Message d'origine----- From: christofer.d...@c-ware.de
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:32 PM
>>>
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Subject: AW: SVN to Git migration in progress
>>>
>>> Well in our case this would simply could be any committer of the project.
>>> At
>>> the time of me writing that article Velo was the only person with commit
>>> rights to the central repo :-)
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> Von: Gordon Smith [gosm...@adobe.com]
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2013 18:32
>>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Betreff: RE: SVN to Git migration in progress
>>>
>>>> "What happens here is that you commit to a publically accessible
>>>> repository clone on GitHub that only you can commit to and then issue a
>>>> "Pull Request" to Velo. He can now review your changes and pull these
>>>> changes from your private fork at GitHub. If he likes what you did, he
>>>> will
>>>> apply your patches to the trunk and you're done."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who is going to be the Velo for Apache Flex? That person is going to be
>>> very
>>> busy!
>>>
>>> - Gordon
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: christofer.d...@c-ware.de [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:00 AM
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Subject: AW: SVN to Git migration in progress
>>>
>>> I once wrote up the workflow of contributing to Flexmojos using Git ...
>>> as
>>> the workflow for Flex is now the same, perhaps it explains a little and
>>> helps clear the confusion with git:
>>> https://dev.c-ware.de/confluence/display/PUBLIC/Contributing+to+Flexmojos
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> Von: Erik de Bruin [e...@ixsoftware.nl]
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2013 13:08
>>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Betreff: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
>>>
>>> What advantage is having a local repo to having a local working copy?
>>> It seems to me that all it does is add an extra layer between me and my
>>> co-contributors. I need to 'commit' to my local repo and then 'push' to
>>> get
>>> it out to the world, where before only a 'commit' was needed...
>>>
>>> EdB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Carlos Rovira
>>> <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> commit is like SVN, you are making a commit in your *local* repo.
>>>>
>>>> When GIT will became RW, you will be able to "push" to the remote repo
>>>> sharing your changes.
>>>>
>>>> In Git you have a fully functional local repo, and there's a shared
>>>> one remotely while in SVN there's only one remotely...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/12 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>>
>>>>> Joao,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you... but that went right over my head. I'm still at the stage
>>>>> where I'm trying to grok the difference between 'commit' and 'push'...
>>>>> I'll get there, but I'm so not pleased with (the timing) of this move
>>>>> that you all get to enjoy my wining about it until I have the
>>>>> FalconJx stuff - which I had nicely lined up for a SVN commit -
>>>>> working again in the new git repos I've been forced to make, and my
>>>>> code is safely 'staged/committed/pushed' for all to enjoy.
>>>>>
>>>>> EdB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM, João Fernandes
>>>>> <joaopedromartinsfernan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Eric, If you want to learn the basics behind git you can try
>>>>> > http://pcottle.github.com/learnGitBranching/ , it helped me.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 12 March 2013 09:14, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Are you sure?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I did a 'git clone' and 'build.properties' shows:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> # flex-sdk-description values
>>>>> >> release = Apache Flex 4.9.1
>>>>> >> release.version = 4.9.1
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> While the develop branch in SVN has:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> # flex-sdk-description values
>>>>> >> release = Apache Flex 4.10.0
>>>>> >> release.version = 4.10.0
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Oops?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> EdB
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Frédéric THOMAS
>>>>> >> <webdoubl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> > it contains a copy of the develop branch you should do: git
>>>>> >> > clone https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-sdk.git, it
>>>>> >> > will create
>>>>> a
>>>>> >> new
>>>>> >> > directory called flex-sdk, if you prefer 'develop' append ' >> >
>>>>> >> > develop'
>>>>> to
>>>>> >> the
>>>>> >> > clone command
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > -Fred
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > -----Message d'origine----- From: Erik de Bruin
>>>>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:40 AM
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>> >> > Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Just trying to understand what just happened:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-sdk.git
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Does that contain a copy of 'trunk' or of 'branches/develop'?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > EdB
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Frédéric THOMAS
>>>>> >> > <webdoubl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I'm currently cloning the repo to see how it has been done...
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> -Fred
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> -----Message d'origine----- From: Justin Mclean
>>>>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:11 AM
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Hi,
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>> Hey, textLayout is converted to git too, so a git submodule
>>>>> >> >>> init and
>>>>> >> then
>>>>> >> >>> git submodule update should do the trick, non ?
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> No because we need a subdirectory of the textLayout git repo.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Justin
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > --
>>>>> >> > Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>> >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > T. 06-51952295
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
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>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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