That's great to hear, Ed. Thanks for the insight . . . I've been getting different answers from Fineract / MIFOS community and each seems to have their share of uncertainty on this subject self service features.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 10:00 PM Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> wrote: > The Mifos Initiative recognizes how critical the self-service capabilities > are to the users of Fineract and Mifos and do require a more secure way of > connecting to and administering trusted first and third party customer > facing applications. Mifos and members of the community are working on the > design and implementation of this plugin which will be maintained as a > separate open source Mifos plug-in on top of Fineract and welcome any > feedback or input into its design. > > Thanks, > > Ed > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 10:08 PM Paul <pchristi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm not technical enough to speak about the tech portion, but from a >> business perspective / opinion, Fineract MUST support self service in their >> db schema or become intentionally obsolete. Fineract does not need to >> support the connector or gateway. They already exist in multiple flavors. >> >> The fundamental regulatory and ethical principles of *Open Banking* emphasize >> consumer control, which necessitates a self-service function. The two can >> not be separated . . . As of today, 81 countries have already implemented >> an open data / open banking policy (required by law) with ~17 more >> implementing / phasing in policies over the next year, (US being one of >> them). That's 98 countries of 192 chartered in the UN . . . . have already >> codified consumer rights to the data and others are following. >> >> Regardless of the structure of the connector, node or gateway method >> which certainly could (and maybe should) be outside the core product, at >> the end of the day, those gateways must still connect to the Fineract >> backend and the supporting data points should NOT be custom in my business >> opinion. >> >> Regards, Paul >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 8:31 AM Felix van Hove <fvanh...@gmx.de.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Do you intend to withdraw the capability to *manage* self service users >>> and potentially certain features of the Self Service app by non-end >>> users (which is hinted at by menu items in the Mifos X client) too? >>> >>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024, 21:45 VICTOR MANUEL ROMERO RODRIGUEZ, < >>> victor.rom...@fintecheando.mx> wrote: >>> > As an alternative you can use solutions for accessing the APIs like >>> API >>> > Gateways and Access Management. >>> >>> Is there any guideline or anything that explains e.g. to a smallish >>> microcredit org how to set something like this up in the future? I >>> assume you don't want to put the user management into the API gateway >>> too. >>> >>> Felix >>> >>> On 12/03/2025 20:07, James Dailey wrote: >>> > Yes please. It would make sense now to remove it - it will still be >>> > "there" in the code if someone really wants to figure it out but >>> having it >>> > gone would reduce some surface area of application concerns. Also >>> > vendors have had enough notice on this to have come up with their own >>> > approach. >>> > >>> > Expanding this... >>> > I also think Fineract should probably build its own "reference >>> version" for >>> > the same functionality but in a different github at Apache Fineract. >>> This >>> > would fit better into an overall architecture, where you have the >>> component >>> > using secure methods to connect to the backend APIs and then exposing >>> > different customer facing APIs . The auth is different for such a >>> > component, as it relies on identity models for the end user, which are >>> > fundamentally different than identity validation for employees of a >>> bank, >>> > credit union, etc >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > James Dailey >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:50 AM Ádám Sághy <adamsa...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi guys, >>> >> >>> >> I would like to pick up once again this topic: Self-service in >>> Fineract. >>> >> >>> >> Since we just had a release and this functionality was still not >>> removed, >>> >> i was wondering whether we want to do it now and by the time of the >>> next >>> >> release we dont need to worry about that anymore. >>> >> >>> >> This was already a topic a couple times whether the existence of this >>> >> functionality in Fineract is good or bad, but If I recall correctly, >>> it was >>> >> majorly considered as a bad thing (problematic from security point of >>> view >>> >> as well). >>> >> >>> >> Should we have a casual or official vote regarding the self-service >>> >> functionality? >>> >> >>> >> Regards, >>> >> Adam >>> >> >>> >> On 2023. Nov 15., at 14:34, mumin iddrisu <mismis...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hello James >>> >> Thank you for the feedback. >>> >> I will be looking out for the solution in the coming months. >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> Abdul >>> >> ---mis >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 4:01 AM James Dailey <jdai...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Abdul - >>> >>> >>> >>> We encourage everyone to move away from the self-service component. >>> We >>> >>> are going to be revising this shortly as it is not designed for a >>> >>> production environment. >>> >>> In lieu of this we will propose a solution. This is probably a >>> month or >>> >>> more away. >>> >>> >>> >>> The history is that we've identified issues with this component and >>> have >>> >>> slated it, in many roadmap decisions, for immediate removal. It is >>> getting >>> >>> close to that point now; we do need to find a way to describe what >>> to do >>> >>> without the Self Service component. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jdailey >>> >>> VP Apache Fineract >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 8:43 AM mumin iddrisu <mismis...@gmail.com> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hello Team >>> >>>> Has anyone successfully deployed the self-service feature? >>> >>>> If yes please let me know which build you are using. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> Abdul >>> >>>> ---mis >>> >>>> ᐧ >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> Paul >> > > > -- > *Ed Cable* > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative > edca...@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos> > > -- -- Paul
