Hi,

I have created the jira ticket for the same
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-1935

Thanks,

Nazeer

SSA, CrediLinq

https://www.credilinq.ai


On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 3:47 PM Nazeer Hussain Shaik <
nazeerhussain.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bharath,
>
> Thank you. I will create a Jira ticket so that community members can
> update the requirements there.
>
> 1. Cash-based
> For this, we can directly post the entry to income from interest GL Account
> Nazeer -> The problem is the upfront interest amount can't be
> posted directory to GL Account as I am not sure marking future installments
> interest paid is a good idea (at least with periodic accruals). So I am
> thinking of keeping the upfront interest on Liability GL account and keep
> on adding interest paid transaction(s) before installment due. I assume
> this works for 3 accounting scenarios. I haven't thought about interest
> recalculation config so far.
>
> 2. Accrual (Upfront)
> For this type
> We need to have a receivable account credited first and then would be
> moved to the Income GL account when the payment comes in
> Nazeer -> Same as above
>
> 3. Accrual (periodic)
> Since on the business side, the Income amount is being collected upfront I
> do not think it is correct to have interest accruals at the installment or
> at a periodic cut-off.
> but the system should accrue if any fees or penalties are introduced in
> the middle of the loan term.
> Nazeer -> Same as above
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:22 PM Bharath Gowda <bgo...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nazeer,
>>
>> Good to hear from you and happy to see this feature being worked on.
>>  Has a Fineract JIRA been created yet for the same? it will be helpful if
>> you could share the JIRA ticket with the flushed-out functional and
>> implementation details.
>> Curious to know more about what type of product configurations this would
>> be allowed and not allowed. as it would become more complex with daily
>> interest calculations and recalculations enabled.
>>
>> Here are my 2 cents on the accounting entry for the same
>>
>> 1. Cash-based
>> For this, we can directly post the entry to income from interest GL
>> Account
>>
>> 2. Accrual (Upfront)
>> For this type
>> We need to have a receivable account credited first and then would be
>> moved to the Income GL account when the payment comes in
>>
>> 3. Accrual (periodic)
>> Since on the business side, the Income amount is being collected upfront
>> I do not think it is correct to have interest accruals at the installment
>> or at a periodic cut-off.
>> but the system should accrue if any fees or penalties are introduced in
>> the middle of the loan term.
>>
>> Anyone with experience in upfront interest loan products with
>> accrual-based accounting, feel free to correct me and share your thoughts
>> on the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bharath
>> Lead Implementation Analyst | Mifos Initiative
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:03 AM Nazeer Hussain Shaik <
>> nazeerhussain.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Hope this email finds you well. We are planning to implement upfront
>>> interest collection for the loans for some of our business use cases. With
>>> respect to the following 3 accounting configurations, how to post the
>>> journal entries ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. Cash Based
>>>    2. Accrual (Up front)
>>>    3. Accrual (Periodic)
>>>
>>>
>>> Can we directly post the entry to income from interest GL Account? Or do
>>> we need to have some kind of liability GL account where upfront collected
>>> interest will be posted on this account initially and then moved to income
>>> from the interest account?
>>>
>>> And how the Periodic accrual entries should be posted (As periodic
>>> accrual entries will be accrued and posted per instalment)?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Nazeer
>>>
>>> SSA, CrediLinq
>>>
>>> https://www.credilinq.ai
>>>
>>>
>>>

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