Thank you all for the discussion. I agree with most of them. Now I think we probably shouldn't provide watermarks.
Thanks *Ovilia* On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:54 AM SHUANG SU <sushuang0...@gmail.com> wrote: > In my opinion, it is probably not a good idea to show a watermark by > default. > > (1) Suppose a website has some content that is illegal in certain local > law, or has some controversial content, if we have the "Apache > ECharts" watermark on it by default, it probably brings trouble to that > brand and to our community. Even if the controversial content is outside > but just next to the chart, it also might make final users connect it to > the brand (depends on the style). > > (2) It will bother the users. Users have to find a way to remove the > watermark, either for their own brand or for our brand. > And some users may be confused whether they "can" remove the watermark. > After all, brand is a sensitive issue, most of the developers and product > managers can not have enough knowledge about that. I am worried some users > may not intend to select an intrusive lib since there are many > other choices. > > (3) A default watermark might affect the visual: it might overlap with some > text or graphic, even if it is opacity. > > (4) Sometimes we can recognize some chart lib easily by some special > features and default colors. Compared to them, if echarts print "it is > echarts" literally, I am afraid it might bring an impression to users: it > is not "smart". > > > Thanks, > ------------------------------ > Su Shuang (100pah) > ------------------------------ > > > > On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 11:06, Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月2日周四 上午11:02写道： > > > > > The watermark itself is a way to make it easier for users to share that > > > information. > > > > > > As for whether it is required to state using ECharts inside, could > Sheng > > Wu > > > or other > > > mentors help answer this question? > > > > > > > I think license says this, > > https://github.com/apache/skywalking/blob/master/LICENSE#L100 > > > (c) You must retain, in the Source form of any Derivative Works > > that You distribute, all copyright, patent, trademark, and > > attribution notices from the Source form of the Work, > > excluding those notices that do not pertain to any part of > > the Derivative Works; and > > > > Apache 2.0 is business-friendly, it doesn't force the users to show this > on > > the product page. > > Is this triggered by the thing, Apache SkyWalking requesting BoCloud > > following Apache 2.0 License requirements? > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > *Ovilia* > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:50 AM Clement Ho <clem...@gitlab.com.invalid > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I'm a little confused at the proposal. Is it to add a mandatory > > > > watermark/require users of ECharts to mention that they are using > > ECharts > > > > somewhere in their product or is it just making it easier for users > to > > > > share that they are using ECharts for their charting solution as an > > > > optional configuration? > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:44 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'd like to propose adding a watermark stating something like > "Charts > > > > > provided using Apache > > > > > ECharts (incubating)" in ECharts 5.0 which is displayed as small > > > > > translucent text in the bottom > > > > > right corner and developers may have a way to opt out > > programmatically. > > > > > > > > > > The reason behind this is letting more visitors to those charts > know > > > that > > > > > they are made with > > > > > ECharts. We recognize that many developers may not make a > statement > > > that > > > > > the product is > > > > > made with ECharts as the Apache license asks. Since we have so many > > > users > > > > > (200,000 downloads > > > > > each week on npm), it's hard or almost impossible for us to find > and > > > > check > > > > > the violations. > > > > > > > > > > So, we could use the watermark as a way to provide a simple method > to > > > > help > > > > > with the branding. > > > > > If some users prefer to opt out and maybe make a statement of using > > > > ECharts > > > > > elsewhere in their > > > > > product, they can do this easily with a simple option. > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > *Ovilia* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
