where do we stand on this?
the PR is in and accepted, but i feel we need to have this built as part of
the release artifacts and on dockerhub to foster adoption.
if the only issue is the mysql connector i can remove it in favour of the
postgres connector.


On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 13:58, Don Bowman <d...@agilicus.com> wrote:

> i can just remove the mysql, the postgres works, i was just assuming folks
> wanted it.
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 16:58, Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> A discussion is progressing on
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-437. It doesn't seem to have
>> got anywhere firm yet.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:23 PM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I don't think anything is strictly needed from you at this point, but
>> > things happen when people drive them, and participation in that effort
>> > would help make sure it gets done. I think at this point the tasks on
>> our
>> > end are watching LEGAL-437 for advice (or making it moot by removing the
>> > MySQL jar), asking Infra to set up automated builds once that is sorted
>> > out, and building some kind of consensus around how we'll label and
>> promote
>> > the Docker images.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:13 PM Don Bowman <d...@agilicus.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> i'd be fine w/ removing the mysql, i'm using postgresql for the
>> metadata.
>> >> if this is the case we should consider relfecting postgres as the
>> default
>> >> metadata in the docs.
>> >> however, i think this is mere aggregation under the gpl license, and
>> the
>> >> docker image tends to have other (e.g. bash) gpl code. druid's start
>> >> scripts are all bash-specific as an example.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not clear if anything further is needed of me, i'm hoping to get an
>> >> automated build going into dockerhub, and tagged w/ each release. i
>> think
>> >> this will help adoption.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 14:22, Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > First off thanks a lot for your work here Don!!
>> >> >
>> >> > I really do think, though, that we need to be careful about the
>> >> inclusion
>> >> > of the MySQL connector jar. ASF legal has been clear in the past that
>> >> ASF
>> >> > projects should not distribute it as part of binary convenience
>> >> releases:
>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-200. I think having the
>> >> > Dockerfile in the repo is probably fine: in that case we are not
>> >> > distributing the jar itself, just, essentially, a pointer to how to
>> >> > download it. But if we start offering a prebuilt Docker image, it is
>> >> less
>> >> > clear to me if that is fine or not. In the interests of resolving
>> this
>> >> > question one way or the other, I opened a question asking about this
>> >> > specific situation: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-437.
>> >> >
>> >> > About Dylan's questions: my feeling is that we should go ahead and
>> >> enable
>> >> > automated pushes to Docker Hub, and provide some appropriate language
>> >> > around what people should expect out of it. I don't think
>> >> 'experimental' is
>> >> > the right word, but we should be clear around exactly what contract
>> we
>> >> are
>> >> > adhering to. Is it something people can expect to be published with
>> each
>> >> > release? Is it something that we are going to build and test as part
>> of
>> >> the
>> >> > release process, or are we going to publish it via automation without
>> >> any
>> >> > testing? Is it something we expect people to use in production, or
>> >> > something we only expect people to use for evaluation? If it is
>> >> something
>> >> > we expect people to use in production, do we expect them to use it in
>> >> any
>> >> > particular way? Will we be guaranteeing certain things (file layout,
>> >> etc)
>> >> > that provide a stable interface for people to build derived images
>> from?
>> >> >
>> >> > The path of least resistance to answering these questions is to say
>> that
>> >> > the Docker image is provided in the hopes that it is useful, but that
>> >> it is
>> >> > done via an automated build, without any pre-release testing, and
>> >> without
>> >> > any particular guarantees about the 'interface' it provides. If this
>> is
>> >> the
>> >> > case then I would suggest putting it up on Docker Hub with an
>> >> appropriate
>> >> > disclaimer and not promoting it too much. (We might very well end up
>> >> > pushing images every once in a while that don't work right, and it
>> would
>> >> > reflect poorly on the project to have those be prominently
>> linked-to.)
>> >> It
>> >> > becomes easier to strengthen these guarantees if we add an automated
>> >> test
>> >> > suite that we can run before releases which verifies functionality
>> and
>> >> > interface adherence.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:14 AM Rajiv Mordani
>> >> <rmord...@vmware.com.invalid>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > This is purely a packaging exercise. I don't see a reason to mark
>> >> this as
>> >> > > experimental.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Rajiv.
>> >> > > ________________________________
>> >> > > From: Dylan Wylie <dylanwy...@apache.org>
>> >> > > Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 6:08:47 AM
>> >> > > To: dev@druid.apache.org
>> >> > > Subject: Re: docker build
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I believe all we have to do is submit a ticket to Apache's
>> >> Infrastructure
>> >> > > team and then we'll have some automatic process that'll
>> automatically
>> >> > > update docker-hub with images relating to each release.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I guess there's two open questions I think we should reach a
>> >> consensus on
>> >> > > (others feel free to add more!).
>> >> > >
>> >> > > - Are we as a community happy to "support" an additional release
>> >> > artefact?
>> >> > > I'm happy to try to incorporate this into my employer's testing
>> >> > > infrastructure to help catch any regressions on future releases but
>> >> > that's
>> >> > > just one data point on each release.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > - Along the same vein, do we follow the same process as we do with
>> new
>> >> > > features and mark this as experimental for some time?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 13:25, Don Bowman <d...@agilicus.com> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Now that
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Fincubator-druid%2Fpull%2F6896&amp;data=02%7C01%7Crmordani%40vmware.com%7C942b2af1dfb740fcbed308d68dcef937%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C1%7C636852317419449405&amp;sdata=EXigZIBkKiatM0rEgyQRoxA9ER8u8amiAfPN0MghzjE%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> >> > > is merged
>> >> > > > (thank you!)
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > who can get this set to build into Dockerhub? Presumably
>> >> automatically
>> >> > > on a
>> >> > > > 'tag' of the repo.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Once that is done it is much more convenient for folks to use
>> this
>> >> > tool.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --don
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
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