> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerin Jacob [mailto:jerin.ja...@caviumnetworks.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:08 AM
> To: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.anan...@intel.com>
> Cc: Stephen Hemminger <step...@networkplumber.org>; Yerden Zhumabekov 
> <e_zhumabe...@sts.kz>; Richardson, Bruce
> <bruce.richard...@intel.com>; Verkamp, Daniel <daniel.verk...@intel.com>; 
> dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] ring: use aligned memzone allocation
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 08:16:44 +0000
> > From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.anan...@intel.com>
> > To: Jerin Jacob <jerin.ja...@caviumnetworks.com>, Stephen Hemminger
> >  <step...@networkplumber.org>
> > CC: Yerden Zhumabekov <e_zhumabe...@sts.kz>, "Richardson, Bruce"
> >  <bruce.richard...@intel.com>, "Verkamp, Daniel"
> >  <daniel.verk...@intel.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
> > Subject: RE: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] ring: use aligned memzone allocation
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jerin Jacob [mailto:jerin.ja...@caviumnetworks.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 6:29 PM
> > > To: Stephen Hemminger <step...@networkplumber.org>
> > > Cc: Yerden Zhumabekov <e_zhumabe...@sts.kz>; Ananyev, Konstantin 
> > > <konstantin.anan...@intel.com>; Richardson, Bruce
> > > <bruce.richard...@intel.com>; Verkamp, Daniel <daniel.verk...@intel.com>; 
> > > dev@dpdk.org
> > > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] ring: use aligned memzone allocation
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 10:16:25 -0700
> > > > From: Stephen Hemminger <step...@networkplumber.org>
> > > > To: Yerden Zhumabekov <e_zhumabe...@sts.kz>
> > > > Cc: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.anan...@intel.com>, "Richardson,
> > > >  Bruce" <bruce.richard...@intel.com>, "Verkamp, Daniel"
> > > >  <daniel.verk...@intel.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] ring: use aligned memzone allocation
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 18:47:43 +0600
> > > > Yerden Zhumabekov <e_zhumabe...@sts.kz> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 06.06.2017 19:19, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> Maybe there is some deeper  reason for the >= 128-byte alignment 
> > > > > >>>> logic in rte_ring.h?
> > > > > >>> Might be, would be good to hear opinion the author of that change.
> > > > > >> It gives improved performance for core-2-core transfer.
> > > > > > You mean empty cache-line(s) after prod/cons, correct?
> > > > > > That's ok but why we can't keep them and whole rte_ring aligned on 
> > > > > > cache-line boundaries?
> > > > > > Something like that:
> > > > > > struct rte_ring {
> > > > > >     ...
> > > > > >     struct rte_ring_headtail prod __rte_cache_aligned;
> > > > > >     EMPTY_CACHE_LINE   __rte_cache_aligned;
> > > > > >     struct rte_ring_headtail cons __rte_cache_aligned;
> > > > > >     EMPTY_CACHE_LINE   __rte_cache_aligned;
> > > > > > };
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Konstantin
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm curious, can anyone explain, how does it actually affect
> > > > > performance? Maybe we can utilize it application code?
> > > >
> > > > I think it is because on Intel CPU's the CPU will speculatively fetch 
> > > > adjacent cache lines.
> > > > If these cache lines change, then it will create false sharing.
> > >
> > > I see. I think, In such cases it is better to abstract as conditional
> > > compilation. The above logic has worst case cache memory
> > > requirement if CPU is 128B CL and no speculative prefetch.

I suppose we can keep exactly the same logic as we have now:
archs with 64B cache-line would have an empty cache line,
for archs with 128B cacheline - no.
Is that what you are looking for?
Konstantin 

> >
> > I think this is already done for rte_ring.h:
> > http://dpdk.org/browse/dpdk/tree/lib/librte_ring/rte_ring.h#n119
> 
> Yes. The suggestion was in the context of when introducing the
> EMPTY_CACHE_LINE scheme, it should be a function of ARCH has
> speculative next cache-line prefetch or not?
> 
> >
> > Konstantin
> >
> >
> >

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