Regards, Keith > On Sep 23, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu at linux.intel.com> > wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 06:43:55PM +0200, Thomas Monjalon wrote: >>>>>>>> There could be a similar need in other PMD. >>>>>>>> If we can get an opaque identifier of the device which is not the port >>>>>>>> id, >>>>>>>> we could call some specific functions of the driver not implemented in >>>>>>>> the generic ethdev API. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That means you have to add/export the PMD API first. Isn't it against >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> you are proposing -- "I think we should not add any API to the PMDs" ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes you are totally right :) >>>>>> Except that in vhost case, we would not have any API in the PMD. >>>>>> But it would allow to have some specific API in other PMDs for the >>>>>> features >>>>>> which do not fit in a generic API. >>>>> >>>>> So, does that mean you are okay with this patch now? I mean, okay to >>>>> introduce >>>>> a vhost PMD API? >>>> >>>> It means I would be in favor of introducing API in drivers for very >>>> specific >>>> features. >>>> In this case, I am not sure that retrieving an internal id is very >>>> specific. >>> >>> It's not, instead, it's very generic. The "internal id" is actually the >>> public interface to vhost-user application, like "fd" to file APIs. >>> >>> Instead of introducing a few specific wrappers/APIs, I'd prefer to >>> introduce a generic one to get the handle, and let the application to >>> call other vhost APIs. >> >> Yes it makes sense. >> I was thinking of introducing a function to get an internal id from ethdev, >> in order to use it with any driver or underlying library. >> But it would be an opaque pointer and you need an int. >> Note that we can cast an int into a pointer, so I am not sure what is best. > > Yes, that should work. But I just doubt what the "opaque pointer" could be > for other PMD drivers, and what the application could do with it. For a > typical nic PMD driver, I can think of nothing is valuable to export to > user applications. > > But maybe it's valuable to other virtual PMD drives as well, like the TAP > pmd from Keith?
I do not see a need in the TAP PMD other then returning the FD for TUN/TAP device. Not sure what any application would need with the FD here, as it could cause some problems. This feels like we are talking about a IOCTL like generic interface into the PMD. Then we can add new one types and reject types in the PMD that are not supported. Would this not be a better method for all future PMD APIs? Here is just a thought as to how to solve this problem without a PMD specific API. A number of current ethdev APIs could be removed to use the API below. The APIs would be removed from ethdev structure and have the current APIs use the API below. I know some are not happy with number of APIs in the ethdev structure. The API could be something like this: struct rte_tlv { /* Type/Length/Value like structure */ uint16_t type; /* Type of command */ uint16_t len; /* Length of data section on input and on output */ uint16_t tlen; /* Total or max length of data buffer */ uint8_t data[0]; }; int rte_eth_dev_ioctl(int pid, int qid, struct rte_tlv *tlv); > > If so, we may go that way. > > Another thought is that, it may be a bit weird to me to introduce an API > to get an opaque pointer. I mean, it's a bit hard to document it, because > it has different meaning for different drivers. Should we list all of > them then? > > --yliu