On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:32:28PM +0000, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> 
> > On Jul 20, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Neil Horman <nhorman at tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 07:47:32PM +0000, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Neil Horman <nhorman at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 07:40:49PM +0200, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> >>>> 2016-07-20 13:09, Neil Horman:
> >>>>> From: Neil Horman <nhorman at redhat.com>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> John Mcnamara and I were discussing enhacing the validate_abi script to 
> >>>>> build
> >>>>> the dpdk tree faster with multiple jobs.  Theres no reason not to do 
> >>>>> it, so this
> >>>>> implements that requirement.  It uses a MAKE_JOBS variable that can be 
> >>>>> set by
> >>>>> the user to limit the job count.  By default the job count is set to 
> >>>>> the number
> >>>>> of online cpus.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Please could you use the variable name DPDK_MAKE_JOBS?
> >>>> This name is already used in scripts/test-build.sh.
> >>>> 
> >>> Sure
> >>> 
> >>>>> +if [ -z "$MAKE_JOBS" ]
> >>>>> +then
> >>>>> +       # This counts the number of cpus on the system
> >>>>> +       MAKE_JOBS=`lscpu -p=cpu | grep -v "#" | wc -l`
> >>>>> +fi
> >>>> 
> >>>> Is lscpu common enough?
> >>>> 
> >>> I'm not sure how to answer that.  lscpu is part of the util-linux 
> >>> package, which
> >>> is part of any base install.  Theres a variant for BSD, but I'm not sure 
> >>> how
> >>> common it is there.
> >>> Neil
> >>> 
> >>>> Another acceptable default would be just "-j" without any number.
> >>>> It would make the number of jobs unlimited.
> >> 
> >> I think the best is just use -j as it tries to use the correct number of 
> >> jobs based on the number of cores, right?
> >> 
> > -j with no argument (or -j 0), is sort of, maybe what you want.  With 
> > either of
> > those options, make will just issue jobs as fast as it processes 
> > dependencies.
> > Dependent on how parallel the build is, that can lead to tons of waiting 
> > process
> > (i.e. more than your number of online cpus), which can actually hurt your 
> > build
> > time.
> 
> I read the manual and looked at the code, which supports your statement. (I 
> think I had some statement on stack overflow and the last time I believe 
> anything on the internet :-) I have not seen a lot of differences in compile 
> times with -j on my system. Mostly I suspect it is the number of paths in the 
> dependency, cores and memory on the system.
> 
> I have 72 lcores or 2 sockets, 18 cores per socket. Xeon 2.3Ghz cores.
> 
> $ export RTE_TARGET=x86_64-native-linuxapp-gcc 
> 
> $ time make install T=${RTE_TARGET}
> real  0m59.445s user  0m27.344s sys   0m7.040s
> 
> $ time make install T=${RTE_TARGET} -j
> real  0m26.584s user  0m14.380s sys   0m5.120s
> 
> # Remove the x86_64-native-linuxapp-gcc
> 
> $ time make install T=${RTE_TARGET} -j 72
> real  0m23.454s user  0m10.832s sys   0m4.664s
> 
> $ time make install T=${RTE_TARGET} -j 8
> real  0m23.812s user  0m10.672s sys   0m4.276s
> 
> cd x86_64-native-linuxapp-gcc
> $ make clean
> $ time make
> real  0m28.539s user  0m9.820s sys    0m3.620s
> 
> # Do a make clean between each build.
> 
> $ time make -j
> real  0m7.217s user   0m6.532s sys    0m2.332s
> 
> $ time make -j 8
> real  0m8.256s user   0m6.472s sys    0m2.456s
> 
> $ time make -j 72
> real  0m6.866s user   0m6.184s sys    0m2.216s
> 
> Just the real time numbers in the following table.
> 
> processes     real Time   depdirs
>      no -j             59.4s        Yes
>        -j 8             23.8s        Yes
>       -j 72            23.5s        Yes
>         -j               26.5s        Yes
> 
>      no -j             28.5s         No
>        -j 8               8.2s         No
>       -j 72              6.8s         No
>         -j                 7.2s         No
> 
> Looks like the depdirs build time on my system:
> $ make clean -j
> $ rm .depdirs
> $ time make -j
> real  0m23.734s user  0m11.228s sys   0m4.844s
> 
> About 16 seconds, which is not a lot of savings. Now the difference from no 
> -j to -j is a lot, but the difference between -j and -j <cpu_count> is not a 
> huge saving. This leads me back to over engineering the problem when ?-j? 
> would work just as well here.
> 
> Even on my MacBook Pro i7 system the difference is not that much 1m8s without 
> depdirs build for -j in a VirtualBox with all 4 cores 8G RAM. Compared to 
> 1m13s with -j 4 option.
> 
> I just wonder if it makes a lot of sense to use cpuinfo in this given case if 
> it turns out to be -j works with the 80% rule?
> 
It may, but that seems to be reason to me to just set DPDK_MAKE_JOBS=0, and
you'll get that behavior

Neil

> On some other project with a lot more files like the FreeBSD or Linux distro, 
> yes it would make a fair amount of real time difference.
> 
> Keith
> 
> > 
> > While its fine in los of cases, its not always fine, and with this
> > implementation you can still opt in to that behavior by setting 
> > DPDK_MAKE_JOBS=0
> > 
> > Neil
> > 
> >> 
> 

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