On 09/13/2015 02:47 PM, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces at dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Avi Kivity >> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 6:48 PM >> To: Thomas Monjalon; Vladislav Zolotarov; didier.pallard >> Cc: dev at dpdk.org >> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1] ixgbe_pmd: forbid tx_rs_thresh above 1 >> for all NICs but 82598 >> >> On 09/11/2015 07:08 PM, Thomas Monjalon wrote: >>> 2015-09-11 18:43, Avi Kivity: >>>> On 09/11/2015 06:12 PM, Vladislav Zolotarov wrote: >>>>> On Sep 11, 2015 5:55 PM, "Thomas Monjalon" <thomas.monjalon at 6wind.com >>>>> <mailto:thomas.monjalon at 6wind.com>> wrote: >>>>>> 2015-09-11 17:47, Avi Kivity: >>>>>>> On 09/11/2015 05:25 PM, didier.pallard wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi vlad, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Documentation states that a packet (or multiple packets in transmit >>>>>>>> segmentation) can span any number of >>>>>>>> buffers (and their descriptors) up to a limit of 40 minus WTHRESH >>>>>>>> minus 2. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shouldn't there be a test in transmit function that drops >>>>> properly the >>>>>>>> mbufs with a too large number of >>>>>>>> segments, while incrementing a statistic; otherwise transmit >>>>> function >>>>>>>> may be locked by the faulty packet without >>>>>>>> notification. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> What we proposed is that the pmd expose to dpdk, and dpdk expose >>>>> to the >>>>>>> application, an mbuf check function. This way applications that can >>>>>>> generate complex packets can verify that the device will be able to >>>>>>> process them, and applications that only generate simple mbufs can >>>>> avoid >>>>>>> the overhead by not calling the function. >>>>>> More than a check, it should be exposed as a capability of the port. >>>>>> Anyway, if the application sends too much segments, the driver must >>>>>> drop it to avoid hang, and maintain a dedicated statistic counter to >>>>>> allow easy debugging. >>>>> I agree with Thomas - this should not be optional. Malformed packets >>>>> should be dropped. In the icgbe case it's a very simple test - it's a >>>>> single branch per packet so i doubt that it could impose any >>>>> measurable performance degradation. >>>> A drop allows the application no chance to recover. The driver must >>>> either provide the ability for the application to know that it cannot >>>> accept the packet, or it must fix it up itself. >>> I have the feeling that everybody agrees on the same thing: >>> the application must be able to make a well formed packet by checking >>> limitations of the port. What about a field rte_eth_dev_info.max_tx_segs? >> It is not generic enough. i40e has a limit that it imposes post-TSO. >> >> >>> In case the application fails in its checks, the driver must drop it and >>> notify the user via a stat counter. >>> The driver can also remove the hardware limitation by gathering the segments >>> but it may be hard to implement and would be a slow operation. >> I think that to satisfy both the 64b full line rate applications and the >> more complicated full stack applications, this must be made optional. >> In particular, and application that only forwards packets will never hit >> a NIC's limits, so it need not take any action. That's why I think a >> verification function is ideal; a forwarding application can ignore it, >> and a complex application can call it, and if it fails the packet, it >> can linearize it itself, removing complexity from dpdk itself. > I think that's a good approach to that problem. > As I remember we discussed something similar a while ago - > A function (tx_prep() or something) that would check nb_segs and probably > some other HW specific restrictions, > calculate pseudo-header checksum, reset ip header len, etc. > > From other hand we also can add two more fields into rte_eth_dev_info: > 1) Max num of segs per TSO packet (tx_max_seg ?). > 2) Max num of segs per single packet/TSO segment (tx_max_mtu_seg ?). > So for ixgbe both will have value 40 - wthresh, > while for i40e 1) would be UINT8_MAX and 2) will be 8. > Then upper layer can use that information to select an optimal size for its > TX buffers. > >
This will break whenever the fevered imagination of hardware designers comes up with a new limit. We can have an internal function that accepts these two parameters, and then the driver-specific function can call this internal function: static bool i40e_validate_packet(mbuf* m) { return rte_generic_validate_packet(m, 0, 8); } static bool ixgbe_validate_packet(mbuf* m) { return rte_generic_validate_packet(m, 40, 2); } this way, the application is isolated from changes in how invalid packets are detected.