On Nov 17, 2023, at 01:43, Chen, Mike Ximing <mike.ximing.c...@intel.com> wrote:
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>> From: Chenbo Xia <chen...@nvidia.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 8:54 PM
>> To: Sevincer, Abdullah <abdullah.sevin...@intel.com>
>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; jer...@marvell.com; Chen, Mike Ximing
>> <mike.ximing.c...@intel.com>; Richardson, Bruce
>> <bruce.richard...@intel.com>; NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)
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>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] bus/pci: revise support PASID control
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>> On Nov 15, 2023, at 01:39, Sevincer, Abdullah <abdullah.sevin...@intel.com>
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>>>> +I don’t know about the details, so it means for different devices that 
>>>> support
>> PASID, they have different offsets?
>>> 
>>>> +Btw, Is this cap still not exposed to user space in latest kernel?
>>> 
>>> Yes, may be different offsets for different devices.
>> 
>> But why? It’s not standard capability? In my understanding, standard cap 
>> should
>> have the same offset definitions for all devices.
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> PASID is a part of extended capabilities. Its offset can be different for 
> different devices.
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>>> As of now it is not exposed to user. Bruce's test was on 6.2 generic
>>> kernel (6.2.0-36-generic)
>> 
>> Will kernel plan to support that? I can see the related work was done by 
>> Intel but
>> somehow it’s not merged into kernel. Could you give more information on this?
>> 
> Hi Chenbo,
> As you may know there has been a lot of changes in iommu/vfio/SVA/pasid/SIOV
> support in Linux kernel recently. The PASID used to be disabled, but starting 
> with
> kernel 6.2 it is enabled in vfio-pci driver by default.  We did contact the 
> kernel developers
> on this issue. They seem to insist that enabling PASID is needed for whatever 
> new features
> they are developing. This breaks the DLB PF PMD as DLB HW requires the PASID 
> to be
> disable for PF to operate properly (otherwise the HW put DLB in a different 
> mode). We
> will continue to talk to the kernel developers on this issue, but in the 
> meantime would like
> to provide this patch so that DPDK PF PMD can still work with latest kernels.
> 
> In term of exposing the PASID capability to the user space. We are aware of 
> some patches
> Submitted in conjunction to the changes mentioned above, for example,
> https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2309.3/02380.html
> But we don’t know when and if it will be accepted into the kernel. Hopefully 
> the patch will
> be accepted so we don’t have to use the hard coded offset.
> 
>> If kernel does not want this to be exposed, it means userspace should not 
>> access
>> this. No?
>> 
> The action (disabling PASID) only applies the targeted device. In the DLB PF 
> PMD case,
> the DPDK has full control of the device via vfio-pci.  It does not affect 
> kernel and any
> other device's operation.

Thanks for the long explanation.

Hope to see follow-up in DPDK when this capability get exposed to user later :)

/Chenbo

> 
> Thanks
> Mike
>> /Chenbo
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