> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.anan...@yandex.ru>
> 发送时间: Sunday, July 3, 2022 8:20 PM
> 收件人: Feifei Wang <feifei.wa...@arm.com>; Yuying Zhang
> <yuying.zh...@intel.com>; Beilei Xing <beilei.x...@intel.com>; Ruifeng
> Wang <ruifeng.w...@arm.com>
> 抄送: dev@dpdk.org; nd <n...@arm.com>; Honnappa Nagarahalli
> <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>
> 主题: Re: [RFC PATCH v1] net/i40e: put mempool cache out of API
> 
> 
> > Refer to "i40e_tx_free_bufs_avx512", this patch puts mempool cache out
> > of API to free buffers directly. There are two changes different with
> > previous version:
> > 1. change txep from "i40e_entry" to "i40e_vec_entry"
> > 2. put cache out of "mempool_bulk" API to copy buffers into it
> > directly
> >
> > Performance Test with l3fwd neon path:
> >             with this patch
> > n1sdp:              no perforamnce change
> > amper-altra:        +4.0%
> >
> 
> 
Thanks for your detailed comments.

> Thanks for RFC, appreciate your effort.
> So, as I understand - bypassing mempool put/get itself gives about 7-10%
> speedup for RX/TX on ARM platforms, correct?
[Feifei] Yes.

> 
> About direct-rearm RX approach you propose:
> After another thought, probably it is possible to re-arrange it in a way that
> would help avoid related negatives.
> The basic idea as follows:
> 
> 1. Make RXQ sw_ring visible and accessible by 'attached' TX queues.
>     Also make sw_ring de-coupled from RXQ itself, i.e:
>     when RXQ is stopped or even destroyed, related sw_ring may still
>     exist (probably ref-counter or RCU would be sufficient here).
>     All that means we need a common layout/api for rxq_sw_ring
>     and PMDs that would like to support direct-rearming will have to
>     use/obey it.
[Feifei] de-coupled sw-ring and RXQ may cause dangerous case due to
RXQ is stopped but elements of it (sw-ring) is still kept and we may forget
to free this sw-ring in the end.
Furthermore,  if we apply this, we need to separate operation when closing
RXQ and add Rx sw-ring free operation when closing TXQ. This will be complex
and it is not conducive to subsequent maintenance if maintainer does not
understand direct-rearm mode very well.

> 
> 2. Make RXQ sw_ring 'direct' rearming driven by TXQ itself, i.e:
>     at txq_free_bufs() try to store released mbufs inside attached
>     sw_ring directly. If there is no attached sw_ring, or not enough
>     free space in it - continue with mempool_put() as usual.
>     Note that actual arming of HW RXDs still remains responsibility
>     of RX code-path:
>     rxq_rearm(rxq) {
>       ...
>       - check are there are N already filled entries inside rxq_sw_ring.
>         if not, populate them from mempool (usual mempool_get()).
>       - arm related RXDs and mark these sw_ring entries as managed by HW.
>       ...
>     }
> 
[Feifei] We try to create two modes, one is direct-rearm and the other is 
direct-free like above.
And by performance comparison, we select direct-rearm which improve performance 
by
7% - 14% compared with direct-free by 3.6% - 7% in n1sdp. 
Furthermore, I think put direct mode in Tx or Rx is equivalent. For 
direct-rearm, if there is no
Tx sw-ring, Rx will get mbufs from mempool. For direct-fee, if there is no Rx 
sw-ring, Tx will put
mbufs into mempool. At last, what affects our decision-making is the 
improvement of performance.

> 
> So rxq_sw_ring will serve two purposes:
> - track mbufs that are managed by HW (that what it does now)
> - private (per RXQ) mbuf cache
> 
> Now, if TXQ is stopped while RXQ is running - no extra synchronization is
> required, RXQ would just use
> mempool_get() to rearm its sw_ring itself.
> 
> If RXQ is stopped while TXQ is still running - TXQ can still continue to 
> populate
> related sw_ring till it gets full.
> Then it will continue with mempool_put() as usual.
> Of-course it means that user who wants to use this feature should probably
> account some extra mbufs for such case, or might be rxq_sw_ring can have
> enable/disable flag to mitigate such situation.
> 
[Feifei] For direct-rearm, the key point should be the communication between TXQ
and RXQ when TXQ is stopped. De-coupled sw-ring is complex, maybe we can 
simplify
this and assign this to the application. My thought is that if direct-rearm is 
enabled, when
users want to close TX port, they must firstly close mapped RX port and disable 
direct-rearm
feature. Then they can restart RX port.

> As another benefit here - such approach makes possible to use several TXQs
> (even from different devices) to rearm same RXQ.
[Feifei] Actually, for direct-rearm, it can use several RXQs to rearm same TXQ, 
so this
is equivalent for direct-rearm and direct-free. Furthermore, If use multiple 
cores,
I think we need to consider synchronization of variables, and lock is necessary.

> 
> Have to say, that I am still not sure that 10% RX/TX improvement is worth
> bypassing mempool completely and introducing all this extra complexity in
> RX/TX path.
[Feifei] Thus maybe we can avoid this complexity as much as possible.
We should not increase the complexity of the bottom layer for convenience, 
but leave it to the user to decide.  If user wants performance, he needs to 
consider
and operate more.

> But, if we'll still decide to go ahead with direct-rearming, this 
> re-arrangement,
> I think, should help to keep things clear and avoid introducing new 
> limitations
> in existing functionality.
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> Konstantin
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