> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xueming(Steven) Li <xuemi...@nvidia.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 2:45 PM
> To: dev@dpdk.org; Randles, Ronan <ronan.rand...@intel.com>
> Cc: Van Haaren, Harry <harry.van.haa...@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] add packet generator library and example app
> 
> On Tue, 2021-12-14 at 14:12 +0000, Ronan Randles wrote:
> > This patchset introduces a Gen library for DPDK. This library provides an 
> > easy
> > way to generate traffic in order to test software based network components.
> >
> > This library enables the basic functionality required in the traffic 
> > generator.
> > This includes: raw data setting, packet Tx and Rx, creation and destruction 
> > of a
> >  Gen instance and various types of data parsing.
> > This functionality is implemented in "lib/gen/rte_gen.c". IPv4 parsing
> > functionality is also added in "lib/net/rte_ip.c", this is then used in the 
> > gen
> > library.
> >
> > A sample app is included in "examples/generator" which shows the use of the
> gen
> > library in making a traffic generator. This can be used to generate traffic 
> > by
> > running the dpdk-generator generator executable. This sample app supports
> > runtime stats reporting (/gen/stats) and line rate limiting
> > (/gen/mpps,<target traffic rate in mpps>) through telemetry.py.
> >
> > As more features are added to the gen library, the sample application will
> > become more powerful through the "/gen/packet" string parameter
> > (currently supports IP and Ether address setting). This will allow every
> > application to generate more complex traffic types in the future without
> > changing API.
> 
> A good start, thanks.
> 
> Testpmd can do txonly, rxonly, forwarding, but no rx+tx only :) I guess
> that's the key of a GEN. testpmd also has "--stats-period" to show
> statistics in non-interactive mode, very close to a GEN, but not
> enough. Testpmd can toggle a lot of settings like offloading, that's an
> advantage. Do you see an chance to make the lib part of testpmd?
> 
> I tried to leverage Scapy syntax into testpmd [1][2]: to set fancy
> template - useful to test flows, or dump packet using different scapy
> detail level. unfotunately I don't have time to finish it. Parsing
> packet from string is boring, any consideration on this?

Hi Steven,

Yes I recall the patchset to extend DPDK with python/scapy itself, and indeed 
this was my first approach too!
I build a proof-of-concept for enabling a 
"run-python-script-inside-eth-null-PMD-rx-function" approach.
Although this worked (in a clunky way, using packet.__bytes__() in python 
script..), the performance was
extremely low. An optimization was to pre-calculate e.g. 1 million packets, and 
leave them all in memory,
which causes memory waste, and lack of performance due to memory-boundedness in 
the CPU.

There is a fundamental blocking issue here - the generation/creation of packets 
is slow. Even updating a
single flow, or single parameter of the packet, could/would require 
recalculation of checksums... so leads
to the C code needing to know the L2/L3/L4 offsets. Even then, the 
re-calculation over 1-million packets
puts a lot of memory pressure - the packets cannot be re-used (from mempool 
lcore cache) if they need
to be "unique" through pre-computation, resulting in cache-trashing.

As a solution, moving to a native/C language based creation of a "base packet" 
(template) with "modifiers"
seemed a good fit. It allows best-case performance (mempool cache) and lowest 
compute per-packet.
The "modifiers" are "pay for what you need" approach to flows/updates/etc, 
allowing user to choose
the right balance of traffic-complexity vs CPU-cost to generate it.

All in all; handling string-parsing in C is not fun - but by paying that price 
we can gain many other things...

I think that a "gen" engine for TestPMD could be interesting for certain 
use-cases yes. As your links below,
the "expect" behaviour is a particularly nice way of working for testing! There 
is an implementation for
net/null PMD to create packets with Gen library, but is not ready for upstream 
so was not included in V2.

For multi-flow latency testing, I'm not sure if TestPMD is the ideal tool, as 
it does not prioritize RX/latency
at all costs: e.g lcores perform both RX and TX functionality. The dedicated 
"example/generator" is a sample
application that provides the basis for a more latency/jitter focused 
application, however there is much work
to do there to make it a production-ready tool.

Note that at the moment, the status of the Gen work is as follows;
- Upstream discussion: 
http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2022-January/232965.html
- V2 patch: 
http://patches.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/cover/20220121103122.2926856-1-ronan.rand...@intel.com/

Regards, -Harry

PS: Side note around Python/Scapy: its an *awesome* tool. I like it a lot, but 
for DPDK levels of performance,
and in a latency/performance critical use-case, I'm not convinced it is the 
right tool to use.


> [1]: https://github.com/steevenlee/dpdk/commits/upstream_scapy
> [2]: doc
> https://github.com/steevenlee/dpdk/blob/875b8407f769465837513d29a495af3cc
> 1a29765/doc/guides/howto/scapy.rst
> 
> >
> > Harry van Haaren (6):
> >   gen: add files for initial traffic generation library
> >   gen: add basic Rx and Tx routines and tests
> >   gen: add raw packet data API and tests
> >   gen: add parsing infrastructure and Ether protocol
> >   gen: add gen IP parsing
> >   examples/generator: import code from basicfwd.c
> >
> > Ronan Randles (6):
> >   net: add string to IPv4 parse function
> >   net: add function to pretty print IPv4
> >   examples/generator: enable gen library for traffic gen
> >   examples/generator: telemetry support
> >   examples/generator: link status check added
> >   examples/generator: line rate limiting
> >
> >  app/test/meson.build           |   4 +
> >  app/test/test_gen.c            | 184 +++++++++++
> >  app/test/test_net.c            |  87 ++++++
> >  doc/api/doxy-api-index.md      |   3 +-
> >  doc/api/doxy-api.conf.in       |   1 +
> >  examples/generator/main.c      | 483 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  examples/generator/meson.build |  13 +
> >  examples/meson.build           |   1 +
> >  lib/gen/meson.build            |   6 +
> >  lib/gen/rte_gen.c              | 553 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  lib/gen/rte_gen.h              | 114 +++++++
> >  lib/gen/version.map            |  10 +
> >  lib/meson.build                |   1 +
> >  lib/net/meson.build            |   1 +
> >  lib/net/rte_ip.c               |  58 ++++
> >  lib/net/rte_ip.h               |  38 +++
> >  lib/net/version.map            |   9 +
> >  17 files changed, 1565 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >  create mode 100644 app/test/test_gen.c
> >  create mode 100644 app/test/test_net.c
> >  create mode 100644 examples/generator/main.c
> >  create mode 100644 examples/generator/meson.build
> >  create mode 100644 lib/gen/meson.build
> >  create mode 100644 lib/gen/rte_gen.c
> >  create mode 100644 lib/gen/rte_gen.h
> >  create mode 100644 lib/gen/version.map
> >  create mode 100644 lib/net/rte_ip.c
> >

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