On 2/17/2021 5:57 AM, Asaf Penso wrote:
Hello Ferruh, thanks for the reply and please see my below comments.

Regards,
Asaf Penso

-----Original Message-----
From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yi...@intel.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 3:14 PM
To: Asaf Penso <as...@nvidia.com>; dev@dpdk.org
Cc: NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon <tho...@monjalon.net>; Andrew
Rybchenko <arybche...@solarflare.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] doc: add new tables for rte flow items and
actions support

On 2/7/2021 10:52 AM, Asaf Penso wrote:
In http://doc.dpdk.org/guides/nics/overview.html, table 1.1 lists all
supported features.
It has a single line for "Flow API" that refers to rte_flow support.
rte_flow is composed of many items and actions that are not expressed
in this single line.

The following new tables are suggested:
1. rte_flow items
2. rte_flow actions


Hi Asaf,

I understand the intention, but I am not sure about this.

The Flow API does not provide a capability or feature list in the API level, by
design, because it is very hard to do it correct, but this patch tries to do it 
in the
documentation level.

This will be missing lots of details, the flow items and actions documented as
supported may and may not be supported based on the details.


Which missing details are you referring to? All flow items and all actions are 
listed.


Patterns are complex, any rule can be valid or invalid based on provided pattern values (details), also any rule can be valid or invalid based on previous rules or configuration.

In practice this information is much more useful if it is provided by API, but we are not able to do it because of its complex nature, it should be same level of complexity to provide this information by documentation.

It will be very hard to read this table (when it becomes full), also will be 
very hard
to maintain.

As part of any documentation change in rte_flow the developer would also need 
to update this table.
Why would it be very hard to maintain?
>

Ahh, that sound so simple when you say like this :) In practice even keeping feature list requiring lots of effort, developers are missing/neglecting/ignoring updating documentation when updating the code.

And for this case is partially correct table a useful information? If this is not completely correct people won't rely on it and it will become just useless. So this feature should come with an automated way to detect if a rule supported but not documented, or even better this table should be generated from code automatically.



Let me start with a question, who do you think will be your consumer?
Who will benefit from this table and how?

We get a lot of questions from users regarding rte_flow support and we do not 
have a single place with proper documentation.
I can ask the same about the overall feature table, right? There is a value to 
document the support.


Let's discuss the feature table separately, I think that is a valid question.

For the rte_flow, who is asking questions? End user, or application developer? So is this intended to be a marketing documentation or technical documentation?

And what is the nature of the questions, if it is related to the rte_flow, there is already a proper documentation for it:
https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/prog_guide/rte_flow.html

If this question is if any specific rule supported by a specific PMD, right now only valid way to say this that I am aware of is, run 'rte_flow_validate()' and see.
Not sure if we can document this properly.



Also, since each table needs a new section in the pmd ini
file that might not be relevant for all pmds, the print
error message for missing section in conf.py is removed.

Signed-off-by: Asaf Penso <as...@nvidia.com>

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