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> 
> 26/03/2020 18:28, Medvedkin, Vladimir:
> > Hi Yipeng, Stephen, all,
> >
> > On 17/03/2020 19:52, Wang, Yipeng1 wrote:
> > > From: Stephen Hemminger <step...@networkplumber.org>
> > >> On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:27:40 +0000
> > >> "Medvedkin, Vladimir" <vladimir.medved...@intel.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Morten,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 16/03/2020 14:39, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > >>>>> From: dev [mailto:dev-boun...@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Vladimir
> > >>>>> Medvedkin
> > >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 2:38 PM
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Currently DPDK has a special implementation of a hash table for
> > >>>>> 4 byte keys which is called FBK hash. Unfortunately its main
> > >>>>> drawback is that it only supports 2 byte values.
> > >>>>> The new implementation called DWK (double word key) hash
> > >>>>> supports 8 byte values, which is enough to store a pointer.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It would also be nice to get feedback on whether to leave the
> > >>>>> old FBK and new DWK implementations, or whether to deprecate the
> > >>>>> old
> > >> one?
> > >>>> <rant on>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Who comes up with these names?!?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> FBK (Four Byte Key) and DWK (Double Word Key) is supposed to mean
> > >> the same. Could you use 32 somewhere in the name instead, like in
> > >> int32_t, instead of using a growing list of creative synonyms for the 
> > >> same
> thing?
> > >> Pretty please, with a cherry on top!
> > >>>
> > >>> That's true, at first I named it as fbk2, but then it was decided
> > >>> to rename it "dwk", so that there was no confusion with the
> > >>> existing FBK library. Naming suggestions are welcome!
> > >>>
> > >>>> And if the value size is fixed too, perhaps the name should also
> > >>>> indicate
> > >> the value size.
> > >>>> <rant off>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It's a shame we don't have C++ class templates available in DPDK...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In other news, Mellanox has sent an RFC for an "indexed memory
> pool"
> > >> library [1] to conserve memory by using uintXX_t instead of
> > >> pointers, so perhaps a variant of a 32 bit key hash library with 32
> > >> bit values (in addition to
> > >> 16 bit values in FBK and 64 bit in DWK) would be nice combination
> > >> with that library.
> > >>>> [1]: http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2019-October/147513.html
> 
> Yes some work is in progress to propose a new memory allocator for small
> objects of fixed size with small memory overhead.
> 
> 
> > >> Why is this different (or better) than existing rte_hash.
> > >> Having more flavors is not necessarily a good thing (except in
> > >> Gelato)
> > >   [Wang, Yipeng]
> > > Hi, Vladimir,
> > > As Stephen mentioned, I think it is good idea to explain the benefit
> > > of this new type of hash table more explicitly such as Specific use cases,
> differences with current rte_hash, and performance numbers, etc.
> >
> > The main reason for this new hash library is performance. As I
> > mentioned earlier, the current rte_fbk implementation is pretty fast
> > but it has a number of drawbacks such as 2 byte values and limited
> > collision resolving capabilities. On the other hand, rte_hash (cuckoo
> > hash) doesn't have this drawbacks but at the cost of lower performance
> > comparing to rte_fbk.
> >
> > If I understand correctly, performance penalty are due to :
> >
> > 1. Load two buckets
> >
> > 2. First compare signatures
> >
> > 3. If signature comparison hits get a key index and find memory
> > location with a key itself and get the key
> >
> > 4. Using indirect call to memcmp() to compare two uint32_t.
> >
> > The new proposed 4 byte key hash table doesn't have rte_fbk drawbacks
> > while offers the same performance as rte_fbk.
> >
> > Regarding use cases, in rte_ipsec_sad we are using rte_hash with 4
> > byte key size. Replacing it with a new implementation gives about 30%
> > in performance.
> >
> > The main disadvantage comparing to rte_hash is some performance
> > degradation with high average table utilization due to chain resolving
> > for 5th and subsequent collision.
rte_hash is linearly scalable across multiple cores for lookup due to lock-free 
algorithm. How is the scalability for the new algorithm?

> 
> Thanks for explaining.
> Please, such information should added in the documentation:
>       doc/guides/prog_guide/hash_lib.rst
> 
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